Karma and balance

Barcid·4/3/2018, 7:22:30 AM·36 votes·2,933 views

No, this isn't a gameplay post. Calm down. This is just a consideration for her new lore that I wanted to make sure is thrown out there.

Most everyone says that Karma's lore boils down to it basically not making a lot of sense with her previous character as well as making her some kind of penance self-martyr of some kind - basically boring with no real direction to take her.

#The most insulting thing about this lore is how childish and one dimensional it is, as well as just philosophically wrong.

So all right, before going into this, let's just break down all the key concepts that Riot basically ganked from eastern religion: karma as a base, along with punya, pap, adharma, and dharma which Darha is a play on words of (hur de hur, so clever).

Explained, punya and pap are your merit and sin respectively and dharma and adharma are the deeds themselves - basically, dharma is an act that brings balance to the universe while adharma disrupts it (simplified, they're mostly just good and bad). This works on a ethical scale and isn't meant to be taken as a black and white model - basically, you also factor in intent, attitude, and desire.

Now, this isn't where Riot goes wrong in the lore - this is actually followed rather okay-ish, if a little simplistic. Karma annihilates a Noxian general and his crew. Technically a bad act as it's taking another life, but the intent is the defense of her homeland: Or should be. The point that Riot appears to try and make is that the inner voice of Darha demands that Karma use her powers to kill the invaders. Karma's hesitant but believes that she only need take one life and compromises with Darha. Darha instead drives her to take out an entire vessel of people - okay, over-exercise of power. That can possibly be taken as ill-intent along with a failure in the attitude and desire department.

#Here is where the lore completely loses any sound philosophy.

Karma, an enlightened being, would easily be able to see the justification in killing when it is a necessity to maintain balance and harmony. If a Noxian fleet is barreling down on your nation and slaughtering thousands, inaction doesn't stop the killing - it makes sense that killing a nation's generals would leave their armies far less capable and so seeking to minimize the death toll required to return harmony would be an act of dharma. That's enlightened intent, attitude, and desire. You turned Karma into a whining martyr instead of making this a story of Darha becoming her own enlightened Karma.

#Here's what should have happened: Darha realizes that her intent to exercise her power was juvenile and immoral. She accepts this and learns from it, meditates on it, and realizes that violence should be reserved for necessity and teaches these ideals. In a post-invasion Ionia, while everyone is looking to exercise their might, Karma teaches them that violence without cause only further disrupts harmony and brings no more positive results. Using the ship as an anecdote, she teaches that she could have killed one man for the same result than have killed more.

Instead, Riot goes the "I'll never kill again" route, a childish and stereotypical end for how one-dimensional it is - oh yes, killing will totally always be easy. The opportunity missed is the lesson of restraint and necessity. The suppression of immoral thoughts or actions but also the ability to use one's moral compass.

#Giving in to anger and killing may be an easy path to take, but so is complete inactivity and submission. Exercising the restraint to refrain from excess when necessity calls for darker action - that's the challenge, that's getting closer to enlightenment. Knowing when to start and where to stop.

As the fuckin' religion you ganked these beliefs from practices, the point is to maintain moral balance, inside and out. Inner and outer harmony. It is not just about peace and love and smoochy smooches - sometimes the harsh reality of the universe is that action must be done to bring it back to balance. Even from a stance of non-violence, Karma's motivations and reactions here are completely asinine.

So to leave you with a quote from the man himself, here's Gandhi's own belief on this kind of situation:

"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. Violence is any day preferable to impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent."

#Rephrased: If your only option left to you is violence to reclaim your own power, it is better to practice violence than to sit by and give up your personal power. It is possible for someone once violent to halt their violence. It's not possible to reclaim your power once you've lost it. Basically, if the only path available to you is violence, it is better to take it than to sit inactive.

But thanks for bastardizing a philosophically sound religious belief down to its most immature base possible.

16 Comments

MariusThdi4/3/2018, 7:33:40 AM15 votes

Karma should not a a plot device for irelia, she is demoted form a a character, to a mass of a being, In the new lore her actions are tied to actions of Irelia, her established themes are destroyed to accommodate the new lore.

Mossy Lungs4/3/2018, 8:53:38 AM7 votes

Please Riot lore squad. Get rid of this stupid Darha crap. I hate that every champion is a person inside of a person. Like come the fk on with this basic ass shit. I want to play Karma, the bad ass "I will do what I must!" Empress, not some "girl" being imhabitated by a (typical overly used plot device) spirit/soul. I want Karma! Also come on the new lore makes "Karma" or should I say Darha rolls eyes sound like a teenager, must every female be in their early 20's or younger. I always imagined Karma, along with Irelia as like 28-33 yr olds and now with the Irelia rework she sounds like a 17yr old and you made Karhadardarmavatar sound 15. Stupid stupid stupid. K done being a lil bitch! Enjoy my sassttitude!

Felvyne4/3/2018, 10:06:18 AM7 votes

Mmm I may be wrong, but maybe Riot is trying to set a step before to how to archieve the equilibrium. This Karma has learn what happens if you let the power go and just overkill things. As such, she learns wrongly that she must repress all violent actions. That's where she and Irelia can evolve: Karma learn that pacifism up to an absurd extreme isn't balance, Irelia learn that being a good leader is getting more cool and repressing more aggresive aproaches. Karma will become the more pacific approach and Irelia the more agresive, but both can and will aknowledge when the other may be better for the right situation.

Just my two cents about what I would do.

IxtaliKing4/3/2018, 4:09:52 PM3 votes

This post deserves Riot attention.

I do think there's room for Darha to grow and perhaps become the first Karma to achieve "true enlightenment" (If that's how it works), that being the wise Karma we hear in-game.

"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. Violence is any day preferable to impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent."

Rephrased: If your only option left to you is violence to reclaim your own power, it is better to practice violence than to sit by and give up your personal power. It is possible for someone once violent to halt their violence. It's not possible to reclaim your power once you've lost it. Basically, if the only path available to you is violence, it is better to take it than to sit inactive.

Karma - "Never again will I sit idle"

Sounds like Karma agrees.

jocomotion4/4/2018, 5:39:31 AM2 votes

Well spoken.

Swarovsko4/3/2018, 8:51:10 AM2 votes

I don't like the lore at all. This lore had potential but why on heart did they have to go for the most unoriginal and corny route? This is a mash-up of Soraka's current lore and avatar. It's awful.

TeCoolMage4/3/2018, 5:05:02 PM2 votes

I think part of the problem is Riot seeing "the middle path" as cliche even though it's one of the most important concepts in buddhism

Maybe they wanted to put their own spin to being 'enlightened' or something but it comes off as "what the heck is she going on about?"


Also red flag, Soraka is getting her lore changed entirely, probably

BottleCapster4/3/2018, 5:40:50 PM2 votes

I'm....so disappointed in this lore. Like the more I read, the flatter she felt as a character, I literally felt Karma's character depth drain from her. All we have left right now is a paper cut-out masquerading as Karma and spouting out meaningless platitudes with nothing to back it up. There's apparently suppose to be some sort of philisophical quandry here, but nothing in this lore update supports it. Who knows maybe the flavor story will do more for her....but I just don't like this direction.

Before you felt that Karma was her own independent power, a strong woman with a will of steel who sought to create a path that was neither exceedingly pacifistic, nor outright aggressive. She was a diplomat, a leader, and now? "Killing is bad guys", is all I'm feeling here. Karma feels less like her own person and more like a tool to spout off condescending ideals about how people who do bad things get what's coming to them. Who, Karma? Who is going to make the bad guys pay for their actions? Are the soldiers who've killed your people going to get struck by lightning? Is that any solace to those who died, or those who laid their lives on the line to defend those lives? It feels like there's no nuance to her beliefs, and I just can't really accept that. Riot please, Bring back Karma's inner flame, because she's getting a bit dim.

AbiwonKenabi4/3/2018, 9:58:47 PM1 votes

Thanks for the insight. Overall, I didn't really like Karma's new stuff, but I was having difficulty pinpointing why. A lot of this is definitely a factor in my dislike of the changes. Even forgetting about the philosophical parts for a moment, her motivations feel poorly explained, and the stuff that IS explained is weak or doesn't make much sense.

Wyrmblade4/3/2018, 6:06:05 PM1 votes

"We are happy that you care about Karma and are considering the complex moral problems we presented in her lore." ~ Riot They have already justified it to themselves and have committed to an endless circlejerk of protecting each other from confronting their many continuing failures. At the very most all that will ever happen to Karma is an empty "We'll discuss some things." and then maybe you'll get a half-assed middle ground shifting of the words because they just want to shut you up. It will never get better, it will only get worse. This has happened time and time again. They never learn and they never will.