Bramble Champion concept

thatdavidguy··2 votes·698 views

Bramble Greenthumb is a yordle champion. He is a plant based champion. So far the only iteration of this archatype is Zyra. Some could argue Ivern, but i would say that he is more in tuned with the animals of the forest then the plants.

Bramble would be primarily a support champion, focusing on keeping his team alive rather than contibuting damage.

Bramble can only plant 4 seeds at any one time. Planting an additional seed causes oldest planted seed to be deleted.

Passive: Brambles move speed increases when moving towards plants of any type (includes map plants, bushes, and other champions plants)

Q: Barkspine, Bramble covers target allied champion in a spiney bark armor. Increases targets armor until target takes 5 auto attacks. Attackers take % of auto attack damage as self inflicted damage. (Think thornmail, without the health buff)

W: healing roots, Bramble plants a visible seed that grows a plant, while in the radius of the plant allied champions gain health over time. Plant lasts until destroyed or has used all healing up.

E: Sporewood, Bramble plants a hidden fungus in target area. When walked near by enemy champions, the fungus releases spores inhaled by all enemy champions in area confusing them. Enemy champions walk uncontrollably towards center of fungus for a period of time.

R: Petrify, bramble jumps on target enemy champion As long as bramble is attached to enemy champion that champion cannot move, act, or take damage. As long as Bramble is attached to the enemy Bramble .loses % health. This effect can kill bramble

11 Comments

LeBlanc Rose2 votes

3 actually. Ivern, Maokai, Zyra. All plants.

thatdavidguy1 votes

Forgot about moakai

CrimsonCobra31 votes

I like the healing roots, and the sporewood is epic. THe ultimate is strange, and the Q is problematic. Other than that, I would love numbers, but I understand that it's not really essential. I also like that the sporewood doesn't seem to actually hurt your enemies. It's just for disruption and area control.

Note that giving a thornmail to an adc could actually be really broken, since, especially in the laning phase, adcs are fighting against other adcs -- and thornmail is designed against adcs. So it's kinda weird, and also kind-of disables trading. Which could be a massive advantage in some matchups. (All that depends on the strength of the numbers though, and the match-ups. For instance, Jhin, Miss Fortune, and Caitlyn would all suffer a lot less against it than other adcs. So if they're popular, his Q won't be that great.) The R is weird because it takes a sudden turn in direction for the champion. He goes from being an almost gardener-ish old gramps kind of champion to a wild boy. It's strange thematically. And could also be really strong depending on how it's implemented.

~CrimsonCobra3

thatdavidguy1 votes

No diff then having black shield mid vs another ap mage. Its up dor some changes maybe like 3 autos vs 5 or something

thatdavidguy1 votes

The ult would Force enemy team to make huge decisions. Kill off Bramble to free up thier champ for fighting or ignore the chsmpion making the fight a 4v4 essentially.

CrimsonCobra31 votes

Yeah... as a support, that's a really nice trade. He can sacrifice himself to completely shut down the most fed enemy. Additionally, it's even good in the laning phase. If the support is away for a little, or isn't good in a fight on their own, Bramble just ults the enemy adc, and then sits there while his adc either kills the enemy support, or just sits there and kills the enemy adc. It's really, really brutal, if the opportunity is even hinted at. It's also just weird.

thatdavidguy1 votes

Bramble takes the health damage, the target takes no damage, but is just useless

CrimsonCobra31 votes

Yah, that's broken.

thatdavidguy1 votes

Think of sions passive. How he lives for a little. But the longer the passive is up faster his life shrinks.. similar concept the longer bramble is petrifying his target the faster his health drops

CrimsonCobra31 votes

Thinking about it more, I don't know if it's broken in every case. It certainly allows for a lot of control over team fights, or even 2v2s or 2v1s in the botlane, and it's very good at saving an ally's life... but it's also going to be sacrificial in 80%+ of those cases. And that's a problem. Knowing how to use this (really strange) ult, would become the measure of skill on this champion. It would divide the 0/22/3 Brambles from the 0/3/22 Brambles -- the rest of his kit is fun, supportive, safe, and interactive, but his ult is strange, disruptive, out-of-character, and high-risk, with a conditionally high reward.

CrimsonCobra31 votes

If I remember correctly, they actually had a lot of trouble balancing that. That's why I'm cautioning you to carefully consider it. I'm not saying you need to ditch it, just be very cautious.

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