A completely new class!

Duko·7/7/2015, 9:28:04 AM·2 votes·1,405 views

Let's make a little chart using the four base values each champion has (damage, utilty, mobility, tankyness) and what roles differant combinations make. _ High Stats Utility, Damage, Tankyness and Mobility- Damage and Mobility- These are your Assassins Damage and Tankyness- Your Bruisers Damage and Utility- The Mages/ADC's Utility and Tankyness- The Tanks Utility and Mobility- ?

What if there was a new breed of Champions which used mobility and stealth mechanics to unleash fight changing lockdown and disruption? Low health targets are often associated with compensating with high damage, but what if this class had scaling cc and low ability scaling? A talon appears in your backline and pops your adc before escaping, changing the fight. In a similar way this class would pop up or dash in to unleash hellish suppression, debuffs, and disruption before exiting the carnage.

The Suppressor class.

15 Comments

LaowPing7/7/2015, 9:39:28 AM2 votes

This actually sounds interesting as fuck. Like an assassin that locks you down instead of blowing you up. Some champs do this to a small degree but no enough to make a difference. It'll have some problems but I'm totally behind this idea.

linkblade917/7/2015, 9:43:29 AM1 votes

I think the inherent problem with a class-role like this is that without damage or defense being one of your primary foci, you lack a means of defending yourself. ADCs and Mages can (generally, hopefully) fight their way out of a problem, using their high damage to come out successfully. Tanks can out-live the damage aimed their way, so as to live to fight again and be successful that way. If a "suppressor" was caught out, they have only their "suppression" tactics with which to defend themselves, that neither provide defense to survive incoming damage, nor offense to "end" the problem, as it were.

Conversely, I worry this would also bring with it a problem that exists in card games like Magic the Gathering: you're introducing the League-equivalent of the "control" deck, whose purpose is to win by shutting down the game and preventing other players from doing stuff. In my experience this is only fun for the controller themselves, and an incredibly frustrating experience for everyone else :/

50000000000000007/7/2015, 10:36:06 AM1 votes

Wouldn't it be just like Janna or Rammus? Something like high-mobility supports or high-mobility tank?

GreenLore7/7/2015, 10:56:16 AM1 votes

What you propose sounds quite a bit like a support assassin. You know combine the mobility/playstyle of an assassin with the CC and utility of a support.(Ekko also has shades of this,being an assassin whose damage output isn't that great,but who comes with a lot of utility and has a large aoe stun)

I think it would work on an individual champion,but I don't see the reason to make this an own class.

Besides Supression sounds nice on paper,but it comes witha huge tradeoff: It sucks for the opposing player. There is a reason why almost all the champions with super long CC durations(like fiddlesticks) are rather old,because not being able to do something is boring. Supression also has another flaw in that it becomes rather moot once the opponents get item 3140 Yes they'd need to buy this one specific item to counter that champ,but it would pretty much nullify the sole purpose of him/her.

qetzel7/7/2015, 1:06:18 PM1 votes

They would become tanks.

How would we stop them from building like a tank? We would have to give them low base utility with massive utility scaling.

This would lead to DoTAesque chain stunning in the late game. I do not think this is suitable for LoL. I also do not think this would be fun for the person on the receiving end.

turkeyBACON7/7/2015, 1:40:37 PM1 votes

That sounds like support roamers minus the stealth. Alistar and Bard for example... Not enough gold to build damage but enough inherit cc in their kits to heavily effect lane and team fights.

ModThe Djinn7/7/2015, 1:47:15 PM1 votes

_Utility and Mobility- ?

These are supports. Lulu, Janna, Bard, Karma, Nunu, Nami, Sona, Zilean, Soraka -- they are all able to support, and each and every one of them has some way to improve their own cross-map movement. You could also argue that many Utility/Zoning Mages have this in their kit: Orianna, Viktor, Cassiopeia, Lissandra, and Ekko all have AoE CC and mobility tools.

I'd also reclassify your high stats: it makes things a little clearer:

Burst Damage / Sustain Damage: Marksman Burst Damage / Mobility: Assassins Burst or Sustained Damage / Utility: Non-Assassin Mages Sustained Damage / Durability: Fighters Durability / Utility: Tanks, some Supports Mobility / Utility: Some Supports

What if there was a new breed of Champions which used mobility and stealth mechanics to unleash fight changing lockdown and disruption? Low health targets are often associated with compensating with high damage, but what if this class had scaling cc and low ability scaling? A talon appears in your backline and pops your adc before escaping, changing the fight. In a similar way this class would pop up or dash in to unleash hellish suppression, debuffs, and disruption before exiting the carnage.

The issue here is that initiation tanks bring the same power to the game (CC that can reach the back line), while also providing more than a fragile body. I'd be fearful of the balance issues behind a class that would inherently need BETTER crowd-control than initiator tanks to make up for their fragile, damage-light nature. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would create some tricky issues.

You'd also have to figure out scaling for them in such a way that they have a clear build path--as is, I'd be tempted to build them super-tanky regardless and just have a stealth initiation tank. How would you suggest discouraging that?

ShuffledPancake7/7/2015, 9:30:14 AM1 votes

Utility + Mobility = Bard, he has no dmg he has no tank stats.. simple

FlameHalbrdOkido8/26/2015, 7:12:45 PM1 votes

Sabotage class, Engineer Class, hm, what other ideas

Though I do think that this supposed class could fit under the same umbrella that is the Support class.

Also I'm surprised why did you not do an analysis for the Support Class, even if your rationale is that the aspect of a Support is only: Utility they still deserve to be on the list! Dont ignore our Supps! D: