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Skin idea: Gender Bent Series?

The Shadow Volt··9 votes·6,157 views

Have you, at Riot games, ever thought of taking some characters, and making a skin that'd basically be the opposite gender they originally are? And if so; why haven't you tried the idea out on the community? See how the reception of an idea pans out with a poll or something. I understand you'd need a voice actor for each one, and to slightly edit the models, but you wouldnt need to modify the spells hardly any in the process.

Just a little food for thought. I'll take my leave now, and its just as a bit of a joke, so dont take this post too seriously, lol.

19 Comments

Sukishoo5 votes

Unfortunately Riot has said they won't do this, as it'd take them a lot of extra time to redo all the animations and such for champions since Male / Female are very different in relation to body language.

Sir Saltarin1 votes

Not to mention that every skin of that type would need a whole new VO

Terozu1 votes

They would also throw off the entirety of the silhouette.

Schoenberg3 votes

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Unfortunately Riot has said they won't do this, as it'd take them a lot of extra time to redo all the animations and such for champions since Male / Female are very different in relation to body language.

I want my gender bent Gragas and RekSai

And mere words from Riot won't stop these feels.

Tin Obliterates2 votes

Oh yes female Urgot hot af.

Shazzbot692 votes

What is this? Heroes of Newearth?

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

A whole list of reasons it would not work, from champion skins being easily identifiable, to the work involved, to the hilarious meltdown all the proud gamers would have about vile wokeness being inflicted on them.

Potats1 votes

There are so many people who believe that gender-bending is transphobic, which would create drama and stuff. So no thanks

Madjack011 votes

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There are so many people who believe that gender-bending is transphobic, which would create drama and stuff. So no thanks

The moment we let pointless drama stop us not just from implementing stuff but even from wanting to implement said stuff is the moment stupidity wins.

reba0421 votes

If it were to be something like 'before ___ transitioned' or whatever then that would be transphobic. I don't see why having 'female swain' or 'male Quinn' would be that transphobic unless rito called these skins 'trans swain' or whatever.

Spekkıo2 votes

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If it were to be something like 'before ___ transitioned' or whatever then that would be transphobic. I don't see why having 'female swain' or 'male Quinn' would be that transphobic unless rito called these skins 'trans swain' or whatever.

Yeah I don't see how that'd be transphobic either.

If you made a flat-out trans character, it wouldn't be transphobic, just like if you made a male character, you wouldn't be manphobic or a female character wouldn't be womanphobic or whatever the proper -phobics are for those particular sexes/genders.

It's only phobic if it's demeaning to the group in question, I.E. turning trans people into a negative caricature of themselves to mock or insult them. The simple existence of said character isn't that.

Considering most trans people start as one sex and then transition to another, if they prefer to have surgery n' what not, I don't see how this wouldn't just be a more honest representation of their choices.

Potats1 votes

Listen, I know it's basically bs but I'm just saying what I heard.

Mordepool1 votes

I hope the list of champs include reksai, chogath, and kogmaw.

Son0fNone1 votes

This thread is cringe af

thecowley1 votes

Im not against the idea, but if all the effects for abilities and out fit is basically just the same, i personally wont buy it. Just seems like to much work for something that i dont think would sell particularly well for the amount of work and associated RP cost it would need

OHminus1 votes

Just go to deviantart for those xd. There are probably 300+ different drawings of female ezreal

Makarakarn1 votes

I'm not going to lie, this would be pretty awesome if it was made right, but I'm not quite sure it'd work. I don't want to restate pretty much what everyone else is saying, but I will add that it'd basically be like having an entire skin line made of legendaries, which would be pretty tough on Riot. Other than that, I'd be super interested if they actually pulled it off.

underscores2221 votes

I don't think this will happen for a variety of reasons, some of which are valid gameplay concerns and others are... not...

Gameplay wise, riot puts extreme effort into making each champion unique looking - this includes everything from weapons to silhouette and animations. The idea is to know who you're looking at in a mere fraction of a second. Skins generally change colors, but the basic shape of a champion is still essentially the same. A skin to make champs convincingly look like their opposite gender might exceed the boundary of easily recognizable.

Take, for example, Janna. One of her current defining features is her huge mass of windswept hair. If you redesigned her as a male, presumably she would have to lose some of that since males typically (and there are exceptions, see taric) have shorter hair. Additionally, the male form is typically not as slender as Janna's model. I'm not saying have someone the size of Braum floating around, but even Ezreal or Draven, two of the skinnier male champs, aren't quite as slender as Janna is.

Now, some champs could certainly work it better than others. Draven springs to mind as one that could probably rock it. But there are some difficulties in general.

Now, another concern would be new players - who already have to learn the 140 or so champs - getting confused by a skin that alters the champion that much. I believe gender is one of those key identifiers. If I say "that tank with a hammer" you could think of Poppy OR Taric, which have very different playstyles. Altering gender might add another layer of complexity onto the new player learning curve.

The last reason is desirability. Riot makes skins to sell. I personally don't know how much demand amongst the general playerbase there is for a skin series like this. Yes, there is a very specific market for this sort of thing, but outside of that how much can riot count on for sales after the initial release? Additionally, if they made a few skins as a trial, people who want other champs will be clamoring to get their champs swapped. This would be especially bad if Riot decides not to continue the skin line, because people will have examples to point to and say "they could do it if they wanted to"

So while it sounds like a fun idea, it does open up a whole series of issues that are maybe best left alone.

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