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Can we have a champion that can "corrupt" champions?

dontspinbutwin·4/21/2019, 11:57:10 PM·1 votes·1,817 views

I want a hyper carry to be able to hijack an enemy champion. Nothing overly broken though, but something that can be powerful if properly utilized.

Of course, this "corruption" ability will be an ultimate ability, and one with an extremely high cooldown, like karthus' ult.

It would just work something along the lines of "throw out a skillshot. If the enemy is hard cced, then you infest that champion (like how kayn's ult follows a person). For the next 5 seconds, you can control that champion's skills, movements, and actives. The more Armor/MR the champion has, the less time you can corrupt them (So frontline tanks don't singlehandedly win the game for the enemy)." However, this is the catch: both teams can attack the infested unit.

"But dude, thats so not fair! Thats like a 5 second charm, why would anyone think thats balanced?"

Well Mr Chad, the simple solution is this: "Whenever the infested champion takes damage, [you] also take max percent damage equal to the infested champion." This way, even if a high priority champion is corrupted, there is still loss to be gained, as now the team has to consider whether to fight a 4v4 without 2 carry champions, or try to force a 5v4, and win the fight in 5 seconds. And the enemy has to think about this too! Is the champion who got corrupted worth more or less than the [corrupting champion]? Can they peel for 5 seconds, and survive? Furthermore, if you or the corrupted enemy has taken damage, it would be possible to kill one or the other with the other surviving. Lets say I corrupt the enemy ryze. I have 25% HP, he has 75% hp. If the enemy does 25% of ryze's hp as damage, I would die, and he would survive.

But the thing is, this ult can be used not just in teamfights, but in other skirmishes. Lets say you do baron, but the enemy jungler is approaching. Hard cc the bad boy, and infest them, and walk that enemy jungler away for 5 seconds, while your team does baron. As for how you survive that fight after you get expunged from the enemy jungler, that's another good question.

Why not corrupt the enemy adc, and literally just walk away with your team, and have the enemy question whether forcing a fight is worth it.

Corrupt the enemy midlane mage, and waste all the mana you can, so by the time you get expunged, they become useless.

I think the only problem might be with how ultimate cooldowns might work, as it would be unfair if I could utilize a corrupted champ's ult, and put it completely on CD.

But overall, I've been thinking about this a lot, and I really want to see a champion be able to do this (probably a jungler or a support, so they can actually use the ult). Any thoughts?

5 Comments

lowrankhero4/22/2019, 12:24:39 AM2 votes

mordekaiser, you're asking for mordekaiser. king of the bugs

Chembaron Yamada4/22/2019, 10:58:04 AM1 votes

I don't think this is ever going to happen, since it would be just way too anti-fun for the enemy. This isn't just a 5 seconds charm like you mentioned, it is way worse.

Imagine that your jungler is nearby, you hit the enemy champion and let them walk all the way to your own tower in these 5 seconds, while additionally the jungler gets to position himself close to you. Getting ganked in this lane would be far worse than against a Camille lane (which already can be pretty damn frustrating thanks to her ultimate).

If you hit a hypercarry with this spell, the enemy team is losing by default. Yes, they can damage the parasite by attacking the hypercarry, but this would mean making their own carry an easy kill. Other options are not attractive, either. You can't simply disengage, since this means that your hypercarry is freely killed by the enemy after these 5 seconds. You can't ignore them, since letting your own hypercarry run rampant for 5 seconds means your team gets annihilated, then the carry themselves afterwards. There is no correct way to respond in this situation.

And this skill would be way too versatile... you pointed it out, it has many uses. In my opinion, too many. Such a champion would probably become absolutely unbalancable for pro play, which means they just created another champion which has to be left in the dirt, because they warp the entire game around themselves if they are allowed to be even close to actually viable.

Even if Riot would consider such a champion (which I highly doubt), then they need another restriction: While infesting the enemy, you are not allowed to use their ultimate ability. Using the enemy ultimate is already Sylas' shtick, if your new champion could do this, too, then he basically has Sylas' ulti on steroids.

Duck Farius Dunk4/25/2019, 4:08:35 PM1 votes

Hey! So I actually have two champion ideas that are pretty similar to this whole concept of "corruption". The first is a Darkin Support, in which I also have a Darkin adc counterpart for. Basically, the support's ability (thinking E) would curse a champion (ally or enemy) for a few seconds, making them take (up to 200%) damage if they are healed by self or outer sources, but also making them heal from damage sources by a small to moderate percentage. This would force high synergy but is a higher reward than risk for the user's team. The second champion idea is a unconventional hook champion, where a skill shot tethers to the soul of an enemy champion, which then creates a zone around the target for a period of time. While in the area, the target will be able to attack his/her own team members in order to heal him/herself, and will not be able to lifesteal/spell vamp from enemy champions. If the target refuses to attack his/her allies, then based on the abilities rank the target's health bar will show a depletion bar that will take full effect after the abilities duration or after the target leaves the area, damaging the target for the indicated amount.

Sorry this is a lot, but I also consider it brief. Hope it is clear and not vague--let me know what you think (including any other readers here). Thanks!