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Before you make a champion concept.....

Arakadia··33 votes·3,471 views

If your new or not sure about your champion concept, see if they fit these guidelines. If you think your concept could/should be an actual concept then still check it. I find these are the necessities for a concept to be viable. Of course your concept can be great and not follow these, but for it to be a possible in game concept it would have to follow these guidelines:

Does League have something like this already???:

If your concept is a werewolf who's ult turns them into a wolf, we have warwick. If your concept is a sungod, we have leona. What is this champion bringing to League. Every champions brings something new to the table, what does yours bring. For example we haven't had a real "sniper" character before nor a sociopaths murderer like Jhin. Untill Tahm came, we never saw an ability like his Devoure, nor Azirs sand soliders, or Zed's shadow. Be it lore, kit, concept, or quotes, what does your champion have that makes it different and unique?

Give the champion multiple themes:

Give them a primary and secondary theme. Ryze is the rogue mage, but also a thorn-magic user. Rengar is a were-lion, and a master hunter. Annie is a pyromancer and the demon child. Tahm is a river demon, and a siren in the way he lures people in. Brand is a fire-spirit and a spirit of renewal. Give your champion a few small roles to fill. This isn't as necesarry, but help keep the champion unique.

DO-NOT make your champion cliche:

Do not give them cleche boring lore. Do not just give them a set of abilities that aren't unique. Give them something that is new. Don't do the classic "dark mage" because we have Veigar. Don't do a cliche lich as we have Karthus. Don't do a elemental as even though we don't have a wind elemental, we have Yasuo and the like, everyone has thought that up. Unless it has a really cool kit, in that case go ahead. Just make sure this is something awesome and unique.

** Develop your character!**:

Give them a personality! I suggest you think of three words to describe their theme and idea. For Brand you might pick: Rebirth, Uncontrolled, Forest fire. Reflect their life and personality into their gameplay. A dance might be graceful and swift, while a wanderer might pick a solo lane who works best alone, as a duelist. Finding art can help alot! It gives you and the readers an idea of who the champion is. Lore is very important too. Quotes, lore, and pictures really help give you an idea of who your champion is!

Think about counterplay annd issues:

Is this champion too gimicky? Are they too reliant on X ability or passive? Is one of their abilities overloaded? Do they have too many strengths? What are their weaknesses? Do they have something to cover everything (For example they have a heal, mobility, utility, tankyness, CC, and damage) Ask yourself these questions.

** Take your time**:

Make sure you spend the necesary time. If you have to leave the page open and work a bit on it everyday. Dont rush it and make sure its right.

** Try to think of the cons, then patch them up . Have someone else read it if you want.**

ll try to edit this post, but right now its here to help those who want a better concept.

Some other helpful links:

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2099323%3Cbr%20/%3E

http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1561959

Give me any links you have that you found helpful and I'll add them.

78 Comments

ModEchoing7 votes

+1.

Also, before you make a champion that uses two swords, ask yourself "Am I going to be that nitwit that makes each sword do physical or magical damage and creates this stupid binary split?"

If so, punch yourself, then erase the champion and try again. I see that damn thing in the CCOS all the time, and it never fails to disappoint how poorly designed and unoriginal the champion is.

If you HAVE to have two swords, avoid the duality theme. Opt for more of an incomplete collection thing, e.g. you have the swords of water and wind, but you don't have fire and earth, so that's what you're stuck with.

Lil Gr33n Ghouls1 votes

What about instead of 2 swords its a more of a weapon smith character that has countless different weapons at his/her disposal that they can use at will. The kit could range anywhere from having each skill use a different weapon, a Jayce/Nidalee/Elsie like R, or Udyr's form change mechanic for each weapon. There are probably a lot more unique kit ideas a character like this could have but I don't make champion concepts, this is just what popped in to my head when I read your comment.

ModEchoing2 votes

Theoretically possible, much better from an originality perspective than "lol two swords do different damage".

In practice, pretty hard unless you really, really like Bellona from Smite. Switching to a different set of abilities is a LOT of power, and the champions that have different ability sets pay for it with simplistic, inflexible abilities - Gnar's Q in either form, all of Jayce's hammer moves, Elise's incredibly lackluster human form burst, etc. From what I've seen, most people flub that big time and try to make each form's abilities a full ability, meaning instead of having like 1/2 an ability, for what amounts to the same as 3 abilities' worth of power, you end up with 6 abilities and no fun or balance.

Bellona, incidentally, is a cool way of doing this - using a non-ult ability changes her autoattacks to have a different benefit, so she swaps between sword and shield, hammer, and scourge, each with different effects and clear use cases.

Thematically, though, weapon smiths don't really enter the fight. You'd be hard-pressed to come up with a fantasy-type smith that uses all his weapons, mostly because weapon smith is not an enthralling fantasy to begin with, mainly because you'd end up stuck with really mundane weapons that don't do anything exciting. Olaf and Darius do axes better, Xin Zhao and Jarvan do spears better, Garen, Fiora, Yi, and Tryndamere do swords better...you'd be left with some guy failing to achieve competence compared to those guys.

Now, if you're talking a Zaunite weapons dealer who personally tests every weapon in his diverse arsenal before mass-producing it and selling it, a grumpy Piltover captain armed with power armor that dispenses multiple types of weapons, or a millenia-old Void creature that has collected multiple powerful artifacts and uses them to further its own collection, then we're in business here.

ManiacalCoyote1 votes

Are you calling me a nitwit?

ModEchoing2 votes

I ain't calling you for dinner.

Skylarke1 votes

I've heard all about your reviews, and I was just wondering if you could give me your thoughts on my concept.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/mV3EJ1J7-champion-concept-sierra-the-skybreaker

fugertech4 votes

When you get on the Boards to find cool concepts, click on this link, and find like 3-years worth of people hate commenting this post and you're just like:

"These were not the droids I was looking for."

I, personally, think this is great advice. For anyone just coming onto the Boards to make a concept, this info is what they need to hear. Screw the 5 spelling mistakes and the info that may or may not be a bit outdated. So what? What's important is that the main info is here and is easy to understand. I sure wish I'd heard this stuff when I started making champions. So, without further ado, I bid you all farewell. Oh, and all you keyboard warriors need not get triggered; feel free to comment on this all you want. I won't give you the satisfaction of an argument.

Arakadia2 votes

That could not have been worded better. Much thanks for this comment, it was nice. If only we had more people like you on these boards.

Tamur2 votes

As a person that has been posting for a while. I find a post like the OP to be a refreshing reminder of what I need to work towards.

Rozair3 votes

"Think about counterplay annd issues:

Is this champion too gimicky? Are they too reliant on X ability or passive? Is one of their abilities overloaded? Do they have too many strengths? What are their weaknesses? Do they have something to cover everything (For example they have a heal, mobility, utility, tankyness, CC, and damage) Ask yourself these questions."Fizz Ekko Yasuo

Ýones3 votes

Why haven't I seen this before? It's great! I didn't learn anything new, but this would be good for people who are just beginning to create their fancy champions.

Arakadia1 votes

Thanks alot!

CrazyBear19873 votes

Bump for another reminder on Boards!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Tamur2 votes

I've always tried to stay away from Lore (mostly cause I suck at story writing). But finding someone who will help is more frustrating than doing myself.

As for uniqueness it gets hard when you post an idea when 3 other people post nearly the same type of idea.

FloRaider426 votes

{quoted}

As for uniqueness it gets hard when you post an idea when 3 other people post nearly the same type of idea.

Uniqueness isn't that much about other concepts, but already existing champions and how good your concept can differentiate itself from them. That said there are quite some themes that have been done to death by the community (parasitic Void Support, Ruined King as champion etc.)

90s clock radio1 votes

If you ever need a lore writer for a champion concept you're working on I would be down to help out. I write a lot in my spare time, would be nice to have an objective with my writing.

Tamur1 votes

I need something for Cel besides just lore notes.

90s clock radio1 votes

Let me know a way to contact you and I'll send you what I come up with.

Tamur1 votes

Just post it in her thread

KillAMoose2 votes

Eh.

This seems to focus more on a champ being "orijinul karacktur, plz dont steel" than anything, and the logic OP uses would exclude a good many of the wonderful champions we already have based on similarities in theme, or role.

Ivern, Maokai, and Zyra all play differently? Nope. All plant-people. Two of them need to go, because not "unique" enough. Need to get rid of all those damned Yordles too. All of them are just knock-offs of Tristana! Can't have Swain, or Quinn either. We already have Anivia. Gotta get rid of Annie too, because we have brand doing fire stuff. While we're at it, we need to axe all the Shadow Isles champs except Yorick, because there are too many damn ghosts in this game.

It's ridiculous, and showcases an extremely rigid and restrictive way of thinking that stifles creativity. Not helpful. Not helpful at all.

Now that I think about it, your post on my page seems less like helpful tips (since this isn't really helpful at all), and an awful lot more like shameless self-promotion.

Arakadia2 votes

It's ridiculous, and showcases an extremely rigid and restrictive way of thinking

Your exactly right. What you said was ridiculous and restricts creative ideas. What you said was not at all my post.

My post was much so about unique properties, but it did talk about balance and health too. You obviously did not understand what I meant this post for. Many other people said "I agree, but ofc this could always be an exception....". They understand that not all my rules apply 100%. I never once said that Yordles were too similar. Maokai, Zyra, and Ivern have extremely different looks, playstyles, and personalities.

All the Yorldes have extreme personalities and thematics that are unique. You took my post to the extreme.

This post apparently was helpful, thats why it got upvoted much so. Your new to the boards, so this is understandable, but please don't assume someone's attempt to be helpful is always a wolf in sheeps clothing.

KillAMoose1 votes

{quoted}

What you said was ridiculous and restricts creative ideas.

How so? I mean, you can try to turn what I said back on me if that makes you feel better, but it has to make sense if you expect me to take it seriously, dude.

This post apparently was helpful, thats why it got upvoted much so.

And by that logic, if we went by book sales and box office, the Twilight series would be good. But we all know it's not, and every single movie, and book in it was absolute trash. Popularity doesn't mean anything.

Your new to the boards, so this is understandable, but please don't assume someone's attempt to be helpful is always a wolf in sheeps clothing.

If it were helpful, it might have suggested ways in which something may actually be improved. Instead, it was this extremely vague "This is somehow random, and I don't like it. Fix it... somehow."

So, what is it if not self-promotion? Certainly wasn't helpful.

Arakadia2 votes

You were going to the extreme, saying that all Yordles are too similar and should be removed. I never said anything like that. Thus your statement was ridiculous and restrictive of creative ideas.

Also, the Twilight Series was wonderful in some people's eyes.

I'm sorry you didn't find what you were looking for in my post. Please don't take my future posts to the extreme and then observe the outcome like you did this time. And where did I even post my link on your post?

KillAMoose1 votes

{quoted}

You were going to the extreme, saying that all Yordles are too similar and should be removed. I never said anything like that. Thus your statement was ridiculous and restrictive of creative ideas.

Not seeing your point, still.

See, I'm demonstrating that worrying about whether or not a champ is "unique enough" on the grounds of league already having something like that is kinda preposterous, and definitely not something important to think about when designing a champion. Not sure how that restricts your ability to be creative, or think creatively.

Unless, of course, you're trying to say that criticism is censorship. In which case; you're full of it.

Also, the Twilight Series was wonderful in some people's eyes.

Doesn't mean it wasn't horribly-written dreck, with unlikeable characters, stupid themes, and a ridiculous plot that is, for the most part, spurred on by the main character's selfish actions. I think most of its actual popularity came from the movies, because it gave all the lonely housewives, and hormone-addled tween girls something to drool over.

Point is, just because it was popular doesn't mean it was good.

I'm sorry you didn't find what you were looking for in my post. Please don't take my future posts to the extreme and then observe the outcome like you did this time.

Tell you what: I'll refrain from reading any more of your work from now on. Your guide wasn't very good, and I have a sneaking suspicion this is probably the best you can do, or are willing to do.

You can feel hurt, or you can take it upon yourself to improve your writing. Either way, this guide was a waste of my time, as was watching you flounder trying to defend it.

And with that, I bid you good evening.

Arakadia2 votes

Between your first paragraph being so trollish and your many insults that make up 1/3 of your post, I'm not sure what your trying to get now.

Of course a champion being unique a massive part of champion design. It is blasphemous to disagree.

You don't like the Twilight Series or my post. That isnt the end-all-be-all. You aren't always right. Its arrogant to think so.

I have a sneaking suspicion this is probably the best you can do, or are willing to do.

There is no evidence or reason to support this. Its ridiculous how much of your post is just insults and meaningless comments like this.

KillAMoose2 votes

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You don't like the Twilight Series or my post. That isnt the end-all-be-all. You aren't always right. Its arrogant to think so.

If I may go off-topic:

I've read it, and I really don't see how you can tell me that it's worthy of anything it got.

I mean, how am I supposed to like a character with no personality, who basically acts as a special snowflake/Macguffin that moves the plot along through being unfailingly selfish and stupid? Can't do it.

Or a romantic interest who is manipulative, controlling, dishonest, and a self-admitted stalker? Now, maybe if he was a deranged villain of some kind who came across as purposely threatening through all those traits, then maybe it might be a little better. But I have a very hard time believing that he's a good guy, or that any girl in their right mind would want to date a bloodthirsty, undead predator who likes to hunt them down like a bloodhound, creep into their rooms, and watch them sleep, while deeply contemplating if he should have himself a little snack after travelling all that way.

Not to mention that there is no chemistry between Bella and Edward, and no reason to believe that Bella wanted Edward for any reason other than she thought he was hot, or that she stuck with it for any other reason than she was a stupid, selfish, impulsive tween who, as tweens often do, lashed out at authority by doing exactly the thing that anyone with any real concern for her well-being would be telling her not to do-- rushing into a relationship with a creepy, pale kid she only just met.

As a romance, it fails, since neither of the main characters are remotely well-written, and I really didn't find myself caring enough about them to want them to succeed. As a horror novel, it fails, because it's not scary. As a story about vampires, it fails, because the author seems to have no idea that vampires burn in sunlight.

It's shit. Popularity means nothing.

And yes, perhaps my opinion of Twilight isn't the end-all-be-all. But when you have award-winning authors like Stephen King bashing it, and oh-so-many literary scholars, bloggers, critics, and regular readers tearing it apart one paragraph at a time, I'm inclined to believe there is something objectively wrong with it. And since, like I said, I have read it, I'm even more inclined to agree with them than I am you.

Its ridiculous how much of your post is just insults and meaningless comments like this.

Aaaaaand.. back on-topic:

No more ridiculous, or meaningless than your clumsy attempt at writing off an opinion by calling someone a troll. I mean, if you really think about it: if I'm a troll, what does that make you? The dumb bastard that keeps feeding me, that's what.

fugertech3 votes

Try not to cut yourself with all that edge, son.

But really, I listen (see lol) to you speak and it hurts. You've contradicted yourself and you don't even provide good counter arguments. There's constructive criticism of concepts (which this, I appear to need to remind you, is not; it's advice) and then there's you. Go make an offering to your Donald Trump shrine if you're gonna be a pessimistic a-hole that can't argue worth a pile of feces.

           - Pleasanly disposed,
                      Random Stranger #1
KillAMoose1 votes

{quoted}

Try not to cut yourself with all that edge, son.

Go make an offering to your Donald Trump shrine

pessimistic a-hole

Oh, you wanna talk about counter arguments when the best you can provide is a cheap strawman? Sure thing, puddin'. Which would you like me to tackle first?

The intellectual dishonesty?

The hypocrisy?

All the gish-galloping horseshit, perhaps?

Or, how about we start with the irony that, despite knowing full well what you've done (since you know so much about arguing) you're still going to drop a figurative turd on the table, and expect me to be impressed, or concede that whatever the fuck that is is somehow even remotely correct?

Here's some constructive criticism: How's about, instead of trying the scatter-shot method of insulting someone you don't know, and hoping something will stick, you actually try making a point?

-- All the best,

KillAMoose.

PS: I'll refrain from calling you an idiot, since I feel like that would be redundant at this point.

fugertech2 votes

Sigh

Is this what you want to do? Have a heated argument on the Boards under Concepts and Creations? I suppose the answer was obvious from the beginning; you just don't stop.

Personally I'd rather not attempt to argue with you, because no matter what you will always find something wrong to point out and flame me for. That is what you've been doing to Arkadia's post, is it not?

So I'll refrain from starting something that I know will carry on into my next lifetime. What saddens me, albeit slightly, is the knowledge that regardless of what is said you will continue to argue your point even if it is torn to shreds again and again. So I'm not even going to waste my breath, or my time at that, pointing out your inconsistencies and how much of an asshole you've been. Every comment you make on this post has either been insulting in some way or horrendously biased/contradictory. It's disgusting honestly.

Or, how about we start with the irony that, despite knowing full well what you've done (since you know so much about arguing) you're still going to drop a figurative turd on the table, and expect me to be impressed, or concede that whatever the fuck that is is somehow even remotely correct?

And what exactly is it that I've done, hmm? Oh dear, I've pointed out your personality flaw of not knowing when it's a good time to give up. That comment is the result of one paragraph I created to try and deter you from hating on this post anymore. Not even me going through and pointing out all the times you've wandered off topic and attempted to push your opinion through as a fact.

Ah yes, I almost forgot my earlier statement. As I said, I won't go any further with this. Feel free to come back and make another post hating on me; I assure you, none of your witless swearing and rambling will be taken to heart.

But one more thing.

Here's some constructive criticism: How's about, instead of trying the scatter-shot method of insulting someone you don't know, and hoping something will stick, you actually try making a point?

The same could be said for you my friend. More than half of your post was simply insulting me.

Still Quite Pleasantly Disposed, Fugertech

KillAMoose1 votes

{quoted} Is this what you want to do? Have a heated argument on the Boards under Concepts and Creations?

Wouldn't exactly call it heated, slick. That would imply that both parties involved are getting angry or flustered over it-- and that's not really what's happening on my end.

Really, this is just funny to me. I voice my opinion, which happens to disagree with the consensus, and you guys get defensive and flail around feebly trying to tell me off.

And the best part-- I shit you not-- the very best part is that you guys keep calling me a troll, but never stop to think that, "Gee, if he's a troll, then why do we keep feeding him? You think if we just, y'know, stopped feeding the trolls, they'd go away?" Because using your brain is hard, amirite guise? Can I get an amen and hallelujah?

As for when I'll stop; maybe when you quit trying to argue with me?

And what exactly is it that I've done, hmm? Oh dear, I've pointed out your personality flaw of not knowing when it's a good time to give up.

Incorrect. You proceeded to try lecture me about how dumb you think I am by presenting a flimsy strawman. Or, would you prefer that I go back to your first post and quote you -again-?

You've been called on your bullshit, sir/madam. And, while I don't expect you to own up to it, I would, at the very least, ask that you quit trying to lie to me like I can't just scroll up and see exactly what you posted.

Seriously, it's right up there. I can see it, you can see it. You're not fooling anyone, chief.

The same could be said for you my friend. More than half of your post was simply insulting me.

Insulting you? No, not really. Looking at my post, I was attacking you being a hypocrite for using a combination of a strawman and gish-galloping as a counterargument-- since using that tactic automatically means that your argument sucks, and doesn't hold water, and using several strawmen arguments in succession in the hopes that something will stick just makes you look desperate.

I'm getting the feeling that the only reason you're calling that an insult is because your ego is easily bruised, and you just took my criticism of your arguing skills really, really personally.

Eh. Sucks to suck, I guess.

I think the only real insult against you was the last bit about you being a moron.

But again, you calling me out for name calling is highly hypocritical, and intellectually dishonest. I mean, you called me a Trump supporter. That's got to be one of, if not the, most lazy, half-assed attempts at an insult that I've seen. Then, you go with calling me an "edgelord" and a "pessimistic a hole".

I mean, good God, man! Do you even pay attention to what you post when you argue, or do you often find yourself zoning out while typing?

Still Quite Pleasantly Disposed, Fugertech

"Gonna pretend I won this argument and try walk off with my head held high, Fugertech"

fugertech2 votes

Well at least your last comment was somewhat accurate. I did "Walk off with my head held high," but I wasn't pretending I won anything. My apologies if that's how you interpreted this at all.

Congratulations. slow clap

What else is there to say? Not much, I'd wager, since my earlier comment was spot-on.

I suppose the answer was obvious from the beginning; you just don't stop.

I'll take the blame for, how you said, "feeding the troll." Maybe if you stop getting food you'll leave, hmm?

At this point anything beyond this little bit is redundant of everything both you and I have pointed out. All your points are valid, by the way. I'm still of the opinion that your vision of what this post was supposed to mean was twisted, and still is, but that could just be opinion. Who knows?

With regards to the above troll, Hermenshmermen Waffle

FloRaider421 votes

{quoted} Ivern, Maokai, and Zyra all play differently?

Yes one of them is a mage, one a tank and one a support/jungler.

Need to get rid of all those damned Yordles too.

Why, cause they have different roles, themes and personalities ?

While we're at it, we need to axe all the Shadow Isles champs except Yorick, because there are too many damn ghosts in this game.

Actually that is a good example against your point, because none of them overlapp with their thematics: We have one Vengeful Spirit, Animated Armor, Cursed Monk, Lich, Centaur, Possessed Tree, Spiderwoman and Grim Reaper-esque Jailor, with none stepping on the toes of another.

KillAMoose1 votes

Because we already have a plant-person, an animal, a ghost/undead, a void creature, a fish-person, a human, and a yordle. Clearly, if League already has one, we don't need any more. Ever. All champs must be unique, and can only be unique in theme.

That is the logic being used there. It is rigid, restrictive, and if put into practice, would remove a great many of the champs that we have. Demonstrating how it is needlessly rigid and restrictive doesn't disprove my point, because it IS my point.

If anything, your post proves my point by demonstrating how a champion with a similar theme might still be unique from another champ through gameplay, or design, and whether or not a champ's theme is unique enough shouldn't be one's primary concern when designing a champion. So, thanks.

FloRaider421 votes

{quoted} If anything, your post proves my point by demonstrating how a champion with a similar theme might still be unique from another champ through gameplay, or design, and whether or not a champ's theme is unique enough shouldn't be one's primary concern when designing a champion. So, thanks.

One the one hand you agree with me that champions should have different themes, gameplay and design, but on the other hand you still argue with OP about him thinking to restrictive when he says champions should have different themes, gameplay and design. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

It is rigid, restrictive, and if put into practice, would remove a great many of the champs that we have.

Ok which champions are we talking about here, because honestly I don't see any champion conflicting with this idea ?

I think the main problem here is that you and OP are talking past each other so let me give you an example:

You say that plant-person is a theme and therefore there should only be one plant person. OP says treant / Alraune aka Plant lady / forest spirit are each a seperate theme and therefore there should only be one of each.

You say ! animal ! is a theme... OP says armored bear / Minotaur / Phoenix / Scorpion / Armadillo...

You say Undead is a theme... OP say Spirit / Lich / Necromancer / Animated Armore / Centaur ...

Tamur1 votes

Clearly, if League already has one, we don't need any more. Ever. All champs must be unique , and can only be unique in theme

So we should only have a hand full of champions to choose from?

It's because there are many different types of plant-people, animals, ghosts/undead, void creatures, fish-people, humans, and yordles that allow us to make unique teams for matches that has made League of Legends so popular.

Glowshtick1 votes

tl;dr version?

G4LLOWSC4L1BR4TR21 votes

It's not that long. If you can spend the time creating a champion you can spend the time to read this.

Arakadia12 votes

tl:dr: Make your god damn champ unique!

Tyranicaltom1 votes

How are these two? I tried to bring something new to the game with both

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/K1OyAM3e-champion-concept-rix-the-righteous-thief

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/fcBLMAKd-champion-concept-lorde-the-puppet-master

Arakadia2 votes

I'll make sure to take a look at both of them soon! Just give me some time as im currently busy.

Rockman1 votes

The fuck is this part

Ryze : THORN MAGIC Rengar : WERE LION

are you smoking the wacky tabacky

no stop it

its Rune Magic and he's a anthro-lion not a were lion

and its spelled cliche, but you realized that halfway through?

this hurt to read

Arakadia4 votes

I'm sorry that you felt the need to nitpick. This actually was an updated post from quite a while back, before Ryze's VGU. And at the time, he used Thorn magic. I also didn't think it affected the whole meaning of the post just because you categorize one example as something different.

I sometimes write cleche by accident but I know its cliche. No need to be so rude about it, especially considering your lack of punctuation, politeness, capitalization, and actual language.

Rockman1 votes

{quoted}

I'm sorry that you felt the need to nitpick. This actually was an updated post from quite a while back, before Ryze's VGU. And at the time, he used Thorn magic. I also didn't think it affected the whole meaning of the post just because you categorize one example as something different.

Like its literally just a made up ON THE SPOT type of magic for magic that needs tattoos to work. That is also Rune based. And you use that as "well don't use this!". Thats dumb. Really dumb.

Like nobody is going to have something that says "Well they use Thorn Magic" because nobody is going to ever say that unless you're literally talking about Zyra.

I sometimes write cleche by accident but I know its cliche. No need to be so rude about it, especially considering your lack of punctuation, politeness, capitalization, and actual language.

If the other points you tried to make were even sensible I'd allow it. But no.

"No Wind Elemental." - Janna is a wind elemental.

"Warwick is the games werewolf." -Even though if we compared Lycan from Dota 2 and Warwick you'd see the key difference is, 1. Lycan is actually werewolf in-game, and 2. Warwick isn't a werewolf in-game. Like you actually need to transform in-game otherwise you're just an anthro-wolf that happens to have a werewolf backstory.

"We haven't had a real sniper." Do I really need to say why that's wrong. Caitlyn They made another character with the same base archetype because there was a large enough difference. Not because they don't have a sniper.

I sometimes write cleche by accident but I know its cliche.

Also I'm pretty sure you had to reformat this when you posted it so I'm not gonna forgive that.

And I put dat dere English skills to work so you can actually read and respond without the cleche "but ur english sucks bleh."

Arakadia5 votes

Your nitpicking all these things that don't affect the meaning of the post.

f the other points you tried to make were even sensible I'd allow it. But no.

All my points are sensible.

Janna isn't a wind elemental.... shes a girl from Zaun originally.

Also, Ryze used to use Thornmagic, there is no denying it.

Caitlyn does not play like a sniper at all. She fires MANY shots while a sniper fires on shot for the kill.

I did not have to reformat, I just copy and pasted then added on. And I'm not sure insulting someone's english is a very nice thing, especially assuming that all NA users speak English as a first language.

Rockman1 votes

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Your nitpicking all these things that don't affect the meaning of the post.

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All my points are sensible.

Janna isn't a wind elemental.... shes a girl from Zaun originally.

You understand how dumb you're being right now. "Ekko isn't about time travel, he's just a boy from zaun! Dats it!"

Reksai isn't a land shark. Garen isn't a beyblade. Fiddlesticks isn't a Lovecraftian horror.

All our characters are one dimensional and have no other factors!

Remember kids. Don't be cleche.

Also, Ryze used to use Thornmagic, there is no denying it.

When you make up a type of magic to sound cool and don't differentiate it from the Rune Magic he was already using, its like it never existed in the first place.

Like and you're using it as a point to say "Well don't copy that!" Don't copy, a completely made up magic that has no actual bearing on him other than he has tattoos. Right.

Caitlyn does not play like a sniper at all. She fires MANY shots while a sniper fires on shot for the kill.

Do you just have trouble realizing what you're saying? Jhin isn't a sniper either than. Herp da derp.

Its almost like gameplay and archetype don't HAVE to be the same.

I did not have to reformat, I just copy and pasted then added on. And I'm not sure insulting someone's english is a very nice thing, especially assuming that all NA users speak English as a first language.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/41242be88759f28997786c1fd7556aab/tumblr_inline_o2wunslX2o1r3lccd_400.jpg

First off, don't you dare lie to me again. You have goddamn quote blocks in your OP with Bold. You had to reformat in order to do that on Boards. You can't copy paste that formatting in.

Secondly, I can insult your English all I want. (That's supposed to be capitalized btw.) Then you somehow have the gall to say this when you're complaining about how "Wel u dun dindu ur grammer, dun throw stones f u dun hav ur grammar." As a bonus, you think that because somebody has English as their first language it doesn't need reprisal over dumb mistakes? What? Wouldn't that be cause to be even more disconcerting if they fail at English? Also, NA includes Mexico and Canada so nice job excluding them from your "assumption".

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Arakadia3 votes

First off, don't you dare lie to me again. You have goddamn quote blocks in your OP with Bold. You had to reformat in order to do that on Boards. You can't copy paste that formatting in.

As you can insult me, I can lie to you. What your not getting, even though I said it earlier, is that this already was a league of legends boards post. I pressed "edit" and it brought up the post with the quote blocks and bold and all that jazz already there. Then I copy and pasted the post WITH THE FORMATTING FROM THAT POST into this post. Finally, I added what I wanted to.

Do you just have trouble realizing what you're saying? Jhin isn't a sniper either than. Herp da derp.

I forgot about his W and R abilities! Your right! Its not as if his passive has the exact type of thing a sniper would have: A single bullet to end them.

When you make up a type of magic to sound cool and don't differentiate it from the Rune Magic he was already using, its like it never existed in the first place.

Like and you're using it as a point to say "Well don't copy that!" Don't copy, a completely made up magic that has no actual bearing on him other than he has tattoos. Right.

Did you even read my post? Im nearly laughing because it almost seems you aren't reading much of anything I post. I never said don't copy thorn magic, that was part of the "Give your champion multiple subjects" paragraph. My point was that Ryze was both a rune mage and a thorn mage. However before his rework, he was more or less a Thorn Mage who used Rune Magic too. Thorn magic is something to amplify your magic, so you can then wield Rune magic as a separate thing.

Also, NA includes Mexico and Canada so nice job excluding them from your "assumption".

Both countries include many people who English, especially Canada.

You understand how dumb you're being right now. "Ekko isn't about time travel, he's just a boy from zaun! Dats it!"

Your just upset that you made the error of saying Janna was a wind elemental. Which she is not. I never said Janna was just a girl from Zaun originally. Again, did you even read what I wrote?

Your constant usage of taking my post out of context and dissecting it as a bunch of small arguments is weak. You barely noticed the detail of my post, yet find that little nitpicks and errors can make an entire post false. So let me put this in bold so you read it: Small errors and nitpicks do not cause an entire post to be invalid. Your ridiculous if you think that.

Arakadia3 votes

this hurt to read

That can't be because of my post, it must be you. This post has few error's and none of them effect the meaning of the post.

ModEchoing5 votes

Hey Arakadia, at this point there's no arguing with a guy who produces no content and just shitposts. Report him and move on.

Arakadia2 votes

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