Yasuo is not original (PROOF INCLUDED)

GoldyRey··2 votes·2,985 views

So first off, Yasuo is not a samurai, it was never confirmed and was in fact KNOWN by riot and most that he was a wanderer that seemingly looked like a samurai but was simply a guardian now out of luck without a job. Which also by the way, is a COPIED idea. Here let me provide to you what I mean

Any and everyone that cares to find the truth behind Yasuo's supposed "original concept", search up Vagabond, Manga or Vagabond Musashi Miyamoto

Now, in this manga, which has sold 50+ million copies worldwide, ridiculously successful thus why riot hasn't been called out on it, the creator already made bank, and riot is insignificant in the face of true content creators. This manga stars Musashi Miyamoto who at an early age of 13 "was a wanderer" and was without his parent or "guardian" now "out of luck without a job". See this pattern? Let's continue.

In his case, which is the 1% riot did original is that he is no nonsense wind user, but he was a "samurai looking wanderer at first. Which slowly grew into a Ronin, a rogue masterless, note MASTERLESS!!!, samurai. See? Copied entirely.

The Vagabond was an original tribute and Chanbara to Musashi Miyamoto's accounts of life, all fictional but historically accurate within the manga.

Notice how very much copied and copyright lacking Riot is? How very sneaky, falsely correct and corrupted they are? I'll leave the rest to the esteemed community.

70 Comments

ReshiKillim9 votes

I just want to point out that Miyamato Musashi was a real person, who was famed for DUEL WIELDING. Is Yasuo a duel wielder? No. Is Yasuo a ronin? Also no. A ronin would've required him to have been a samurai or a serf at some point.

GoldyRey1 votes

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ReshiKillim5 votes

Miyamoto Musashi didn't practice Iai either, which is something that is demonstrated in a way by Yasuo's Q.

If you wanted to show where Yasuo's design had its roots, you could easily have said it was based off historical swordsmen from one or more of the several asian countries. Instead, you blatantly accused Riot of plagiarism while using a historical figure who only superficially resembles Yasuo's lore and theme.

GoldyRey1 votes

Are you serious? Superficially? It isn't. Iaido never existed during his time, he was the founder, he GAVE WAY to Yasuo way of the sword. He was the father of this style, thus it has basis of Dual Wield origin and ronin. Daiymo too. But you don't even get anything, because you're ignorant. Hiragana, Katakana, or Kanji? Which uses English based efforts?

ReshiKillim5 votes

Katakana and Romaji do.

Yasuo doesn't duel wield. Carrying more than one sword wasn't duel wielding, Miyamoto Musashi was famed for using DUAL wielding, not carrying multiple swords. Many swordsmen carried more than one sword, as it wasn't very hard to damage a katana.

GoldyRey1 votes

Wrong, wrong and so incredibly wrong. The Katakana and Romaji is correct, that's common sense. Also, he was famous, not only known for that one thing though. Also you just said Swordsmen. I am speaking of SAMURAI. RONIN, DAIMYO'S. They specifically had a Wakizashi and a Katana. Nothing else, maybe a Tachi or a small dagger verison of the Wakizashi, you my friend are poorly informed and mislead entirely.

ReshiKillim5 votes

As you yourself said, Yasuo is not a samurai. If he wasn't a samurai or a serf, he couldn't have been a Ronin. So therefore he's a swordsman. Dual wielding a wakizashi and a katana is still using two at once. Yasuo doesn't use two at once.

If anything, Yasuo is modeled much more closely to Ito Ittosai Kagehisa and not Miyamoto Musashi.

GoldyRey1 votes

As you say, Yasuo is no samurai, yes you are a broken record. And no, you DO NOT need to be a samurai or serf to become a Ronin, you need be only a swordsmen of great skill. What is Yasuo? A swordsmen of great skill. Closer to a Ronin, and wanderer? Who is also this? Musashi Miyamoto NOT Ittosai, that is your misinformation, look at the skins/trivia on Yasuo, it is even said by riot and their company that he is a reference to MUSASHI MIYAMOTO.

I'm glad I was able to have a discussion with you and see that we do have esteemed people. Please read into this more however, you seem informed on others but not specifically him which is a shame since he is basically the father of all swordsmenship. My thanks, and have a beautiful day/night, I'm off to attend to some business related things. Have fun you guys!

ReshiKillim2 votes

Ronin is defined as a samurai without a lord, and the term originally referred to a serf who abandoned their master. In no place that I can see an etymology, has it ever defined a swordsman in general.

GoldyRey1 votes

That's because of this. Have you studied Philosophy? Logic? Reasoning? Feudal Japan? The Edo Period? I have. Have you? Are they more than months long?

Btw multi-tasking business is not as hard as expected... sweet!

ReshiKillim2 votes

I have as well, not as much as some other people may have, but I have.

And the term was around before the birth of Miyamoto Musashi.

Warlord Dienekes1 votes

Actually, Musashi was famous for using whatever he could use to win. Most of his duels he fought with only a single sword, though he did duel wield in a few situations.

Though this whole thread is ridiculous. A writer drawing inspiration from history? Oh lawdy, lawdy that's not at all what every fucking author ever had done.

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

Wasn't he also the guy who showed up late to a duel, forgot his sword, and then proceeded to win using one of the oars of the boat he rode to get there?

Warlord Dienekes1 votes

Yup, except the forgot his sword bit. He knew exactly what he was doing. You see his opponent was an expert with the nodachi which had a large reach advantage on the usual katana also usually sturdier made. He also knew his opponent was known for fits of anger. So he arrived law to piss his opponent off and make him sloppy. Then fought with either an oar or just a longer than usual bokken (wooden practice sword) depending on the version you like. To get rid of the reach advantage and durability issue.

The fight lasted a very long time with Kojiro almost winning several times. Until the sun set and Musashi used it at his back to blind Kojiro so he could get an advantage and win. It's thought of all Musashi's opponents Kojiro was probably the only one of equal or maybe even greater skill to Musashi himself. But Musashi was underhanded and smarter and that was why he is remembered.

Of course, I would be amiss to say that the duel itself along with most of the stories of Musashi's life are only known because Musashi wrote them down in books about how great he was. They certainly spread his fame and prestige and he certainly was an accomplished duelist. But a lot of the details are probably exaggerated.

DrCyanide6 votes

Did this Musashi kill his master? Was he accused of killing his master? Did he have to kill his own brother? Did Musashi in any way use some sort of air technique?

Or are you just pulling the most shallow of comparisons and saying they're the same?

TRoubleDig1 votes

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Did this Musashi kill his master? Was he accused of killing his master? Did he have to kill his own brother? Did Musashi in any way use some sort of air technique?

Or are you just pulling the most shallow of comparisons and saying they're the same?

Yasuo is an Afrikaan warrior.....

Spicy Rice1 votes

Wrong, he is obviously an Indian swordsman

YumScrumptious966 votes

Lol just what I like to see, a weeb who gets angry over nothing and makes things up. Yasuo is a champion based off real life swordsman Musashi Miyamoto, a famed Japanese ronin during the later Sengoku period. Yasuo however isn't a straight up copy, he doesn't dual wield his weapons, meaning not using more than one at once, nor does he carry any other blade with him. He uses the damn wind as his weapon, like how far do you need to stretch it to make yourself seem credible? Yasuo was not a wanderer at the age of 12, he left during the Noxus-Ionia conflict, which happened recently lore-wise and he is definitely not a teenager. It never stated he was without parent or guardian early on, anywhere, nor out of luck without a job. Yasuo can't be a ronin (Which means you are a SAMURAI without a leader, being ronin doesn't disqualify you from being a samurai always) as he is not a masterless Samurai, ultimately he serves his homeland currently looking for a killer albeit against his town/village's will as they think he is a traitor, that does not make him a ronin just because he's thought a traitor, so was Saigo Takamori, dubbed the "Last Samurai." Since you think Yasuo is a copy of Miyamoto manga or whatever the fuck that is, how can the manga not be a copy of Miyamoto since they never got his express permission, huh? You ever think they just based some of his character off of the actual famous swordsman and not some anime shit. His core concept is maybe 15% of that general likeness, samurai, famed swordsman, duelist.

GoldyRey1 votes

DEAR GOD THAT ESSAY! THANKS FOR THE WASTED TIME MAN, LOL

YumScrumptious963 votes

If you can't even make a response, I know you have such little base for your argument that its invalid.

GoldyRey2 votes

it's*

YumScrumptious961 votes

No, its not possessive. Your argument doesn't own invalid, your dog owns it's bowl.

Votable Jester1 votes

It's = it is its = possessive it

I'm not against you, but you were wrong there.

YumScrumptious961 votes

Alright, distinctly remember my early learning showing the opposite but we haven't touched on that rule since probably third grade. Despite that, OP still has no argument so I'll take the win and accept the loss of one grammar mistake.

Warlord Dienekes2 votes

Yeah GoldyRey was right on the grammar. But don't worry about it. If the only counter-argument a man can make in an informal, non-academic setting is that you accidentally misspelled something you've won.

Jaskko4 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Icestar11864 votes

The "Ronin" archetype is in and of itself not sufficient to even approach plagiarism. It's like complaining about Mundo just because he's a mad scientist, or saying that Shen isn't original because of Naruto. It's tangentially related at best.

japan hate acc3 votes

You contradicted yourself here. If he wasn't a samurai, then he couldn't have been a ronin. Common sense.

GoldyRey1 votes

No, but you did. A ronin just because samurai is in the context of definition is by no means a limitation. Musashi was from 13 years old a simple wanderer, who so happened to enter a school of swords and technique, like who? Yasuo. Yasuo also looks a lot like Musashi, search it up. Common sense is common, not specific.

japan hate acc1 votes

Common sense may be common, but definitely not in your case. A samurai is a swordsman who is bound to the service of a lord and his land in Japan. A ronin was a samurai who had been dishonored, failed his master, his master was killed, or something like that. Since Yasuo was never bound into service, he couldn't have been a samurai, meaning he couldn't be a ronin.

Dynikus3 votes

Riot gets a lot of inspiration from other sources. final boss veigar for example is basically nothing but a whole bunch of references to other video games.

ExHentai2 votes

Ahri naruto Taliyah avatar Anivia pokemon MonkeyKing dragonball Riot is not the most original group people.

Tamur3 votes

A lot of what Riot does is base off some form of mythology or legend.

Votable Jester1 votes

fairly generic fairly generic generic with a twist (do you know of any cryophoenix is pokemon?) based on the same lenends dragonball is based on.

Icestar11861 votes

Articuno

Spicy Rice1 votes

Not a cryopheonix, just an ice bird

Icestar11861 votes

Closest I could think of.

japan hate acc1 votes

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Ahri naruto Taliyah avatar Anivia pokemon MonkeyKing dragonball Riot is not the most original group people.

Actually, Ahri is based off of Korean mythology, off of a nine-tailed fox. Naruto got this FROM Korean mythology as well. As for Wukong, he was a part of a Chinese legend- the monkey king. He had a magical staff and it was actually a pretty interesting story. I know what your point is, and it is correct, just thought I'd correct some of the evidence :)

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

Technically Korea and Japan both had their take on a mythical nine-tailed fox; from what I gather the Japanese kitsune was more of a playful trickster while the Korean gumiho was more... predatory, to put it nicely.

japan hate acc1 votes

Yes, but I think Ahri is more Korean-based because her dress in the classic art looks kinda like a Hanbok, or a traditional Korean dress. Ahri is also a Korean name, and the gumiho also was known to seduce men, like Ahri used to do. That's why I thought she was Korean based.

CobaltTheMadMage1 votes

Yeah, you're probably right in that department. Actually, wasn't her old lore pretty much that she became more human the more souls she consumed, to the point that she actually developed a conscience and wanted to kick the habit?

japan hate acc1 votes

Yeah, pretty much.

Sukishoo1 votes

Taliyah Teen Titans more so then Avatar.

Warlord Dienekes2 votes

You forgot some of the obvious:

Garen: every generic fantasy soldier/knight ever.

Pantheon: Sparta

All the ninjas

Shaco: Joker

Vayne: Batman/Huntress

Talon: Talon/assassins

GoldyRey1 votes

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Sensei_iaido-rework.jpg

That is Yasuo, this usually leads to a last resort use of the sheath as an additional weapon, ding ding DUAL WIELD. ONLY in EDO PERIODS and samurai periods, so basically prior to the 18th century.

Tamur1 votes

How do you even know if Riot didn't obtain the rights?

GoldyRey1 votes

Never did I state that lmao, and i just literally answered it by saying they're private, they never disclose anything anymore, did you pay attention good sir?

Tamur2 votes

But you're acting like you do

Dual Wielding - Dual wielding is using two weapons, one in each hand, during combat.

Champions who Dual Wield

Katarina Olaf MissFortune Lucian Rengar Draven Gangplank Shyvana Zed Jayce (dual wields two handed weapons)

GoldyRey1 votes

Acting, do you know the definition? That's literally like staging it lol. You are so far from right dude, just let it be I have no time anymore, good try! XDD

Tamur1 votes

Yes I know what it mean. Some people act like they know everything. As for your OP I'm sure his living family members would of said something by now.

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