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SoloDragoon·10/16/2013, 10:34:19 AM·5 votes·2,139 views

I'll start with the cons(sorry in advance if I come off sounding like a douche, while its not my intention I am passionate about League and the web).

  1. Even though its been stated that its not a copy of reddit its a lie. Don't lie to us. That won't help you get this more love. Or if you would like I could create a video showing the two sites side by side.

  2. Using this does nothing for you, that the forums don't do for you already. As I said in both forum major red posts about this topic, the only thing holing you guys back is your own determination to work with vB, or hell php/sql or any other scriptiong its the web your limitations are browser compatibility and server load.

  3. Your vB system is buggy, its slow, voting fails half the time for me. Pages fail to load among other random hiccups. So my actual trust in this system when it goes live isn't that sturdy. And to clarify a bit on this, its definetly your system I work in and around vB all the time, manage sites so as I am sure your getting I am a web developer/designer/server admin by day and night so I am always at my computer. I don't have issues with vB like this on any other site.

  4. What niche does this really fill for riot? So we get avatars we can follow red posts(which we can already do with the dev tracker for the forums, why not give us back are own profiles in vB that works just fine).

  5. Don't give me the you can't use avatars bit, when so many other sites have your own developed API why not just tweek that and add it to the forums?

  6. Not everyone likes reddit, infact people get turned off by it all the time. And its still hard to follow things at times. And it gets ugly real ast.

Pros

  1. Currently in this post page for example its clean.
  2. The theme overall for the pages is nice. Follows the league of legends feel.
  3. Its faster that's for sure. Having my avatar at the top is nice too.(Now why can't you just do that on the other side as well)

I really hope you don't take the cons as a personal insult its not the point, I just feel whole hearadly that this is the wrong direction. I like reddit, but I only use it look through silly images rarely post unless I find a area that is currently interesting (say like /r/pokemon). League of Legends already has a reddit system /r/leagueoflegends there is no reason to try and move it here.

Instead building something fresh, build something that you guys can really be proud of and say you bulit from the ground up and really is a true League of Legends system, not some hashed up reddit system.

Best of luck web guys - whatever way you guys go, still its great work!

12 Comments

Wrck10/16/2013, 2:18:13 PM5 votes

The Reddit community is terrible, I recommended only going there for pictures and never reading the comments . Well the "upvotes" will get good things to the top, it also is a very toxic system that encourages circlejerking of the worst kind. It's kind of like youtube comments, where if someone gets the top comment he's right even if he's wrong, because the people didn't read the full argument.

ploki12210/16/2013, 4:12:35 PM4 votes

Cons :

  1. Pretty sure they never said it wasn't inspired by Reddit. They acknowdleged tiem and time again that the main base for the frontend appearance and sorting was Reddit. However, if you believe this is a 100% Reddit clone, well you're either dumb or idiot.

  2. Using this does nothing that old forum don't? Are you fucking kidding me? Pretty sure old forum had some terrifyingly huge technical problems restricting them from using in-game icons as avatars. Pretty sure that otherwise sorting by "Hot", having a profile, linking with in-game data, change all forums and subforums, disincentivize self-bumps would all have taken a huge amount of resources and be received with boos all the while, since it's what people are used to. Having 2 parallel platform is like adding Twisted Treeline to League of Legends... It's pretty stupid at first, but then again you could try it and realize it's a great move.

  3. I guess the vB system you're talking about is the whole backend? First of all, I never got any problem with this platform, unsure how you could have that much of an atrocious experience... Next, I don't know how much of a designer you are, but honestly some of that make little to no sense to my relatively knowledgeable to computer science person.

  4. It serves as a potent replacement for the technologically limited vBulletin board. It also serves as a replacement for /r/leagueoflegends. It also serves as a testign ground for new technologies, aka a RnD forum. If you're that much of a designer, you should understand quite well how important RnD is for big devs.

  5. You can hardly use in-game icons as outgame avatar on vBulletin based on the way it handles avatars. If it becomes such a hassle that you could either develop a new, cleaner (backend), platform with the same efforts it takes for 1 little feature. The burden is so huge I don't see why you're carrying it.

  6. "Not everyone likes [Twisted Treeline], infact people get turned off by it all the time. And its still hard to follow things at times. And it gets ugly real ast". Is having it a bad idea? Quite sure it isn't... Apparently, supporting a new side-platform doesn't require to ditch the previous one, life is strange ain't it?

As for your conclusion, I totally disagree. There is already a LoL reddit that proved it can work, so why would a more directly tied Reddit be bad? You don't have to use tags anymore to label yourself to X/Y/Z summoner name/server. You can easily embed items/champions/spells. Also, it's VERY hard to reward players in-game for actions taken on the vBulletin board, and 100% impossible for Reddit since the accounts aren't tied. With this Reddit0like platform, it's probably even quite easy.

In short, if there is a need (Reddit), a mean(new platform), and a time(web design team requires a lot of time to implement features with vBulletins), why wouldn't there be an it(community)?

Eyrgos10/17/2013, 3:13:59 AM2 votes

Please place body-text in the CENTER of the screen... this left-offset with so much empty space on the center-right trips my eyes out.

As well, the Red Tracker should be more like RoG's. Too many large cells to scroll through in-length & the Forum Titles are too tiny.

Every time I type before or in the middle of a body of text, it returns my selection to the end of the body... it's really freaking annoying lol.

Also, Ctrl+Z doesn't work to Undo.

RiotIronStylus10/17/2013, 1:24:59 AM1 votes

I can't comment on the technical stuff, but I will say, considering I have been a decently active poster on reddit, I can more easily access questions that the community asks in this format. That's just from my side of things though, speaking as a developer.

If a comment/question pops up that has momentum behind that, the community can raise that higher, increasing the probability of me answering it, or at least, bringing it back to other developers to look at the feedback and maybe assign a proper representative to speak about it.

Again, no idea about technical stuff, but from my perspective, I can get a better handle on what questions are really important based on community feedback.