Spacing/Organization kills Beta for me.

Nibleheim·11/5/2013, 4:58:20 PM·3 votes·914 views

I'm personally trying to give the new Beta a chance, but it is not organized well and reading replies and posts seems really hard.

For example, when I space a sentence to make it easy for everyone to read a sentence and to seperate my points, unlike in the old forums, it does not CLEARLY seperate the sentence. Maybe you could give a 1.5 margin when there is an enter placed opposed to 1. We aren't reading books here.

Also, there is no clear line definining between comments on the forums and if I am skimming often I will get two different people's thoughts jumbled into one post.

Just my two cents, and I'll continue to try it and see if it meshes well, but as far as ease on the eyes the old forum is much easier for me to handle. Also I hate the new color scheme(Or lack of).

7 Comments

Pendragon11/5/2013, 7:04:17 PM3 votes

Can you take a screenshot and mark-up in paint what you're talking about?

Daen11/5/2013, 6:29:44 PM2 votes

For example, when I space a sentence to make it easy for everyone to read a sentence and to seperate my points, unlike in the old forums, it does not CLEARLY seperate the sentence.

What do you mean? The formatting works exactly as it would in GD as far as the visual goes, when you separate paragraphs there's a clear definition between them.

Also, there is no clear line definining between comments on the forums and if I am skimming often I will get two different people's thoughts jumbled into one post.

Again, not sure what you mean. Everyone's posts are clearly separated from each other with bold lines and different colors. What's the issue you're noticing?

eKatSS11/6/2013, 5:09:34 PM2 votes

As a Rioter mentioned above, joining an image to your post with some examples would hellp us all visualize what you mean. It is not quite clear to me at the moment what those issues you mention are.

If it is any help, there is a "formatting guide" link at the bottom of your post window that can help with the formatting of posts.

I agree that you should be able to change the color scheme/personalize the look of the forum based on preference, but this also brings in issues of harmony with the rest of the website.

Geekweezul11/6/2013, 6:13:22 PM2 votes

Perhaps this could be what he is talking about.

The first image is how it is currently. The contrast is weak between the background and the posts.

The second image shows my idea of how to fix it.

http://i.imgur.com/cszTYBq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lSZEpdN.jpg

uGbMwNxkbK11/7/2013, 2:59:52 AM1 votes

I have different issues than the screenshots another user posted above, but still originating from spacing.

http://i.imgur.com/jke5PAq.jpg For visual people here is an image for easier understanding.

(Skip to the block quote down below if you're better with words instead. They describe the same thing. I wrote it out but then i saw Tryndamere asking for an images from OP so, here:

  • Red = completely wasted space, which shoves everything over to the right. I assume this will be fixed with a resolution-dependent/"fullscreen" style in the future. Also, the nesting bars are too large horizontally, at least when combined with the aspect ratio sidebars. In the image, I'm only the 4th (I think?) level in, but the alternative grey/light-grey bars taker up so much space. It gets worse the deeper you go..
  • Green = Why is this here? Showing nest levels on both the left AND the right is pointless. Nothing nests from the right side. Remove this area.
  • Blue = Why is this so horizontally large? Pushes everything horizontally to the left. The actual content is being smushed from both sides. Starting from the right side of the screen, and going left:
    • Firstly, again, black box on the side, will be fixed im sure.
    • Then there is the silver/grey thread 'border'.
    • Then there is an inner black border,.
    • ANOTHER thread-encapsulating (light)grey border. On my screen it's about the same size as the previous two borders combined.
    • Then there is ANOTHER (dark) grey border outlining the rioter comment box so it looks properly defined.
    • More wasted space between the 'comment box defining border' and where the actual comment box content begins.
  • Then the other side of these...wasted space between contents and box border, border itself, large buffer space between rioter box and rest of the comments. Then the "green area" above with needless right-side nesting level indicators. There's just too many little buffer zones stacked next to each other.

Start here if you are better with words. I'm not the only one, surely.

(Some other user in another thread wrote):So, look at those cool boxes, how they're nested inside each other. if you trace the box up to its parent box, you can see the original post that this post is a response to.

15% of the screen is wasted due to the black bars on the sides. If you're far down in the nests this doubles due to more and more grey/white/grey/white/grey...etc barts on BOTH the left and right side. The ones on the right side aren't useful since things don't nest from that direction, it just squashes anything to the left of "rioter comments" into an even smaller horizontal. Even this post I'm editing now; It's only the 5th(?) level down, but i have 10 bars on my screen which makes it hard to see much above or below your own post since pages expand downwards and not horizontally (as they should.)

Another 20% is wasted by the horizontally enormous "rioter comments" box. This makes it so that there isn't much actually displayed vertically. You can really only see 2 nest levels above your post's own level when you're responding. The feature you pointed out only works well on dynamic resolutions which are designed to effectively utilize all the horizontal real-estate on screen.

Quotes from any level above or below your "comment tier" / which nested box level you'e in, are the same color as the nest level directly above/below the one your post is in.

Maybe the grey color is slightly different actually? It's pretty hard to tell. Quotes should not be nested using colors that are indifferentiable from colors used for a very different purpose (from a usability standpoint. Coding wise they may serve the same function, that isn't really the point though.) It's confusing for users.