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"Recent" Does not bump threads that have been responded to.

AnonTwo·7/17/2014, 1:58:37 PM·11 votes·745 views

Hello, as a user of GD constantly, i occasionally visit here to see if the conditions have improved in relation to how GD works.

I wanted to point out today that while "recent" seems at first to be encouraging for GDers...it's not actually how GD threads work!

I have posted in several threads over the past hour or so. Out of those, only several of which have shown up under the "recent" section. I've even looked in several of these, and found that posts i made three minutes ago do not bump a thread past another one that hasn't had a post in 30 minutes.

GD does not bump threads on recent "thread", it bumps on recent "post". As long as recent works like this, people are going to lose their interest in these forums over time. When they use recent, they expect to be able to find all the most recent messages.

But a thread made 30 minutes ago is not recent in GD time. A post made 3 minutes ago is.

Thank you for your time.

If you want a TL:DR: We need a "recent by post " option, not a "recent by thread" option.

20 Comments

Hyrum Graff7/17/2014, 2:42:57 PM5 votes

This is by design, I believe.

The issue they're trying to fix is where people who persistently bump a thread can keep it at the top of GD even if the community really doesn't care about the thread (ie, if it's a troll thread). Recently, I saw a 100 page post on GD... roughly 50 of the pages were the OP, bumping the thread every 10 minutes. The "Hot" listing is intended as a direct replacement - it uses a combination of upvotes/comments to bring the most active threads to the top.

That being said, I agree with you - when you're just hanging around on Boards, you want to see the posts that are currently active, so you can join in a conversation, not just the popular ones, and there isn't currently a view that supports this. And it's completely fine if it enables trolls, because other options exist, so if there are too many trolls, you can stick to one of the other options. I made a thread on this topic a couple weeks ago; one (perhaps the simplest) option, that isn't mentioned in that thread, is simply adding a GD-style sorting view, called "Active," or something like that.

Cheers, Hyrum Graff

Sir ArmaMalum7/17/2014, 3:13:09 PM3 votes

First of all, THANK YOU for provided constructive and explanatory feedback.

I agree with you an additional sorting option of "sort by activity" would be a cool addition, but it does bring up an issue that I want to point out. A system based on comment participation puts incite-full posts on the same level of actually insightful posts. As an example, a well-written post about the current meta would up there next to a random guy saying "Caitlyn is OP and should be deleted". It's actually one of the main reasons I prefer CB over GD, because I can actually have a conversation with the latter without bringing his possibly trollish OP into the mainstream, but I can upvote it later if it turns out to be an actual misunderstanding. Simply put, I can participate in a post's conversation and choose whether or not to put my vote behind it based on its merit.

Of course there are issues with the voting sorting system as well, making it difficult to find new posts (the whole reason I use the 'Recent' ordering) and the ease of which posts can get shut down with one vote among other issues. I jutst wanted to present a problem with this idea and get you and others opinion/solutions to it.

Funster7/17/2014, 2:17:30 PM2 votes

I completely agree. This is exactly why I've been resistant to the switch over to Community Beta but I thought they had fixed it with the switch to Boards. Recent should function largely similar to GD>

Angry Monster7/17/2014, 6:05:19 PM1 votes

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