How do long-lived posts work on this Community Beta?

Shinjusuke·2/24/2014, 8:23:27 PM·9 votes·769 views

On GD, a post remains on the front page (and can be dredged up by necro'ing) as long as people keep posting in it.

Do you have to continually receive upvotes to remain on the front page?

What if I want to continuously receive feedback on a thread over a long period of time? Do new people have to consistently stop by and upvote my thread?

What if I'm fine with the discussion/thread only having the same visitors, even if I want to get more viewership? Will I have to have the thread constantly garnering new attention in order to have it remain easily viewable to those who would be new attention?

The hypothetical situation I fear is thus:

1)Make thread

2)Thread over time receives tons of upvotes or something (we'll say like 300+)

3)Upvotes slow down as there are less and less people who can still upvote it

4)Thread drops in page ranking over time as it cannot continue to gain new upvotes, even if it's a hot topic.

5)Thread falls behind first page

6)Thread stops receiving new members

7)Thread disappears.

Is this how Community Beta works or is there some safeguard against this?

17 Comments

Pendragon2/24/2014, 8:48:25 PM7 votes

I think this is a really good conversation and something I'd love to chat about. Looking at this from two different angles

The same people who have seen the discussion once continuing to follow it

Right now the only way for you to easily keep track of threads you've read is either to bookmark them, or get notifications about replies to your posts. We definitely think there needs to be more ways to keep track of evolving discussions that you're interested in, and we hope to bring new mechanisms to do so over time.

Lots of people in GD do that now by just checking the front page every now and then. Since it's not really easy to get old content to the front page, we'll definitely have to solve that problem another way.

New people following the discussion once it's not highly visible

This is where it gets tricky and I'd like to get more opinions. I generally think that most of the quality and diversity of discussion comes in the first few hundred posts, after which most of the major points have been made and the discussion tends to stray off into side conversations. If we solve the previous problem then I think that people will still be able to keep track of those side conversations however - it will be a lot more difficult for new people to discover the discussion.

My hope is that if the topic becomes relevant enough again for the discussion to shift substantially, that it would actually be appropriate to repost the same, (or an adjacent) topic and have a different discussion.

tl;dr We still want to have some ways through searching to find big meaty old topics, but we are currently not planning on optimizing "new people finding old topics once they're not highly visible" but definitely think we need to solve "I want to follow this discussion for awhile once it's off the first couple of pages"

Thoughts?

Bob LLama2/24/2014, 8:39:54 PM4 votes

Howdy Shinjusuke,

Rest assured, this isn't the plan! We will indeed be rolling something out that directly addresses this. I can't comment on when exactly, but it is something that's on our radar and we know it's important.

Sir ArmaMalum2/24/2014, 8:34:34 PM2 votes

This has been brought up before, and as someone who has a champ concept or two out along with a collection of Guides in the works I am very much with you in that fear.

However, there is some hope, can't find the post right now (sorry) but there is a WiP feature of favoriting posts. so far it's soon(tm)'d but they are working on it!

But as of right now, yes, you have to continuously get upvotes to not get buried via "Hot" ordering, and eventually land yourself in the "Best" ordering of the community you're posting in to continue getting feedback.

JackAqua2/24/2014, 8:37:21 PM2 votes

I usually see normal threads last ~2/3 days, 'good' threads about a week and hyped threads about 2 weeks.
It's kinda sad, when you think about it :(

Roaranor2/24/2014, 8:38:55 PM1 votes

They have 3 sorting features. I think the sorting feature you're looking for is "Best". This displays post in order of their overall popularity. Time is only included for the "Hot" section I believe, which is the standard setting.