[Reporting] Add an option for circumventing bans

ModCaptainMårvelous·2/9/2015, 7:27:17 PM·2 votes·297 views

AKA: If "John123" gets banned for spamming porn links or whatever, let us have the option to report "John1234" for Smurfing/Circumventing a ban. Granted, this should only be offered/enforced beyond reasonable doubt.

8 Comments

Daen2/9/2015, 7:45:13 PM2 votes

I'm not sure what this would accomplish. There are four scenarios that currently happen, in my mind:

  • John123 is banned, the same person creates John1234 and starts posting. This user does not post reportable content.
  • John123 is banned, the same person creates John1234 and starts posting. This user posts reportable content and is banned as per the currently implemented reporting system.
  • John123 is banned, a different person creates John1234 and starts posting. This user does not post reportable content.
  • John123 is banned, a different person creates John1234 and starts posting. This user posts reportable content and is banned as per the currently implemented reporting system.

Basically, I have trouble seeing where the proposed system would come into play. Options 1 and 3 have no reason to be reported, and options 2 and 4 should be swiftly handled by the systems already in place.

Serevas2/9/2015, 7:38:24 PM1 votes

So you want to report people for leveling additional accounts?

Circumventing a ban, fine, that makes plenty of sense. The standard of proof would be massive they'd literally have to say something to the effect of. "Riot permabanned my main for trolling so I just made a new account to troll." The likelihood of that ever happening is so astronomically low that it wouldn't really be worth pursuing, and besides if that hit the tribunal they'd get hard punishments anyway.

Furthermore I can't comprehend how you'd want to report people for smurfing, typically people are just climbing the ladder again, and yeah it sucks to get roflstomped by a d1 ADC vayne main, but there's not really any way around that, and to ban people's accounts for it is just asinine. Again the standard of proof would have to be massive, and there's an astronomically low chance of that happening anyway.

Furthermore if someone is trolling, spamming, toxic, etc. There are already options to report said offenses in the current system.

MXXIV2/9/2015, 10:20:50 PM1 votes

Doesn't make sense. Ban is on account, not person currently (and maybe unfortunatelly). You break rules with account, you get it banned. You play nice with another, you're clean.

Real ban on person isn't really possible now. Or would you provide your fingerprint to Riot so that they can ban you forever if you break rules?

Hyrum Graff2/11/2015, 6:53:21 AM1 votes

Personally, I feel like the punishment is putting in the hours to level up that smurf. If that's not a big enough barrier, maybe we need to raise the level requirement or otherwise make it harder for a new account to start spamming the boards (ie, something like, "only allowed one post per day until you've been around for 10 days."