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We need a clear seperation between feedback and fanart/community creations

Tendrian·2/24/2015, 1:47:48 PM·14 votes·1,219 views

Specifically, I'm talking about the boards "Story & Art" and "Skins & Champion Concepts". As it is right now, the contents of these two boards are kind of all over the place.

In "Story & Art" you will find a lot of threads about the direction Riot takes with splash arts, and how many people are dissatisfied with it... all in the midst of threads about lore, fanfics and complaining about retcons - two things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Likewise, "Skins & Champion Concepts" contains both actual feedback about skins, like the posts asking for particles on Marauder Ashe or all the complaints about Chellenger Ahri, and community created skins & champions - again, no real reason for those topics to share a board.

Also, theres some thematic overlap between the two boards. For example: If I want to give feedback about the art of a skin, where do I post it? My suggestion to solve this would be splitting the two boards into three seperate ones:

  • "Community Creations: Skins & Champions" - Exclusively for skins and champions created by the community (duh).
  • "Skin & Art Feedback" - A place for feedback about the cosmetic aspects of League, kind of a counterpart to "Gameplay & Balance".
  • "Lore Discussion" - For all things involving the lore.

I believe this would not only promote more clarity on the boards, it would also give each of these topics more visibility - a discussion about League's art would no longer have to compete for a place on the frontpage of its board with a Lore discussion (and vice versa).

It should also make it much easier for Rioters to collect feedback: Someone who is looking for opinions about an upcomming skin wouldn't have to skim through a ton of champion concepts to find them, and someone looking for lore discussions won't have to deal with a ton of threads about how ugly Katarina's new splash is.

6 Comments

Raptamei2/24/2015, 4:45:32 PM2 votes

Champion concepts are mostly a thing of the past anyway; between the random downvotes and forced disappearance of older or less upvoted threads on the boards there's little point in posting them anymore, as demonstrated by the freefalling submission count for the monthly contests.

Fanfics are likewise fairly useless since Riot removed all traces of lore from League of Legends. People will probably take them and skin concepts to Deviant Art or elsewhere.

Give it a few months and the problem will solve itself.

Daen2/24/2015, 5:33:27 PM2 votes

I read your title as referring to something different, so the first half of my response is at your thread itself and the second half is at what I thought the thread would be about. If it's unrelated, let me know!

Clarity & Separation

I completely agree with this. Story & Art is probably the worst offender here, but there are multiple boards that include completely unrelated concepts. I think Riot's stance here is that the Boards community isn't large enough to have a more accurate split, but the idea of "let's force random things to post together" is really just...not a valid solution.

Your suggestions are great, the differentiation makes perfect sense and would fit with the general theme of the platform.

Feedback vs Discussion

This is kind of a complex topic, but a pretty interesting one. I have no idea whether you even intended to go into this, so let me know if I'm way off here.

Do you see any value in having separate boards for feedback (@Riot) and discussion (@playerbase)? It's a fun thing to consider, because a huge amount of boards activity right now is essentially just trying to get Riot's attention. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, of course, but is it possible it stifles player-player interaction?

More importantly, would people even really bother posting on a board intended to facilitate player-player interaction if there is a more @Riot-esque version for similar content? As I mentioned a second ago, a ton of activity is basically trying to get players to agree then presenting it to Riot or forcing a response. Almost everything is guided at Riot, and it's interesting to think about whether that's a good thing, if it's scalable, etc.

Learnding2/25/2015, 6:12:44 AM1 votes

Like your Art designs/champs/skins/maps/ literally any art concept; those are great and all, but we could honestly give 2 fucks. - Riot Games 2k56 - 50,000BEC But wait, we'll get KateyChaos to post on it with a little face and a heart to assure that nothing still will be done about your hard work.