Why do moderators not just MOVE topics instead of just deleting them?

darkdill·7/27/2014, 9:48:46 PM·20 votes·2,493 views

Had a discussion on "Why is there no 'Praise' emote?" in Miscellaneous, and it gets deleted because it's in the wrong place. What I want to know is why someone didn't just MOVE IT to the appropriate location.

It was a good discussion, but Riot deletes it because it's "wrong place"? Wow.

42 Comments

Daen7/28/2014, 2:34:16 AM11 votes

+1. I very much disagree with the logic that moving causes problems, I actually feel like outright deleting threads is significantly worse.

Edit: If the question "Why is there no 'Praise' emote?" doesn't belong in Miscellaneous, I have no idea where it should be. That seems like a weird deletion.

Sir ArmaMalum7/27/2014, 9:56:58 PM9 votes

Logic is that each sub-board is intended to have it's own etiquette and culture. In other words, different boards have different lines of what is and isn't ok so moving threads back and forth would muddle those lines to break that intended mindset.

Just relaying, don't shoot the messenger.

Pendragon7/28/2014, 6:01:47 PM7 votes

What we're doing here now is laying the foundation for a lot of longer term efforts. This is something that I think is more controversial now but over time I'm expecting that it will be substantially less so. Fast forwarding into the future - imagine if there are lots more boards than exist today (10x+, 100x, 1000x). You as an individual choose which boards you want to follow or not and each board has a separate moderation team and policy, sometimes to extreme ends.

This means a few things

  • Some boards will vary dramatically in size. Posting something on a very popular board that gets moved to an unpopular board could unduly influence the placement of that piece because it spent a bunch of time getting votes/comments that it maybe shouldn't have gotten
  • There won't be a "right" board for every post, and sometimes it will be sensible for a single topic to be in multiple places
  • There will be different moderation teams from board to board, and it would be unfair for moderators of one board to "force" content & discussions onto another board

Really when looking at deleting content we want moderators to ask - should this content be on this board, instead of, "is this content in the right place".

I'll have to look at this one in particular but it sounds like maybe we shouldn't have deleted it at all.

We're still in beta, we're still trying to figure all of this out but that's where our head is at right now.

Silverclaw7/28/2014, 4:17:11 AM4 votes

They don't want people to start making threads in any forum because 'it'll be moved". It encourages bad behaviour. I think there are other reasons as well, but that's the one that sticks out to me.

nosafterburn7/28/2014, 6:56:22 PM2 votes

My one complaint with the deletion of threads is why delete threads that are reporting bugs. I reported a bug last night about the Lightbringer item (as well as the Wicked Hatchet item) not being purchasable in ARAM and how i saw nothing about it being disabled or anything. I posted it in Live Gameplay Balance since I found the bug during a live ARAM game. I logged in this morning to find the thread deleted with the alert telling me to repost it in the Help & Support section. I did finally report it , but I played another ARAM game before I did to see if maybe it was still bugged. It was. Why do bug reports get deleted? Shouldn't they be something that is considered important enough to move?

Angry Monster7/28/2014, 8:03:09 AM1 votes

read the rules.