Boards: Clarity Update

RiotRiot Sweet·11/12/2014, 9:25:35 PM·21 votes·10,153 views

Hey All,

In a continued effort to make improvements to the Boards we've rolled out some clarity updates today that are now live. A few things that have been updated:

  1. **Body text color ** Altered to help with readability
  • **Links and Byline text colors ** These color changes are to help appropriately place them in relation to more important body text and media. Prior to the update they were causing issue with hierarchy.
  1. Comment Colors There wasn't enough clarity between comments primary and secondary replies so we've amped up the contrast and rebalanced them to help readability.

  2. OP Color Treatment Now less obnoxious and more in-line with the rest of the color scheme.

  3. Comment Spacing Small pixel reduction.

This set of clarity adjustments is the first in a set of updates we will be making to the Boards. As always, and seriously always, we welcome feedback, suggestions and thoughts. In the spirit of remaining transparent and maintaining open lines of communication with you all, here is a few things that are on our list:

  • Quoting & Replying Update
  • ~~ Character Limit Evaluation (Comments + Discussion)~~ DONE
  • Formatting Update
  • Improvements to Comments (both Chrono and Discussion views)
  • Update to the Red Tracker
  • Pagination / Endless Scrolling
  • Bug Fixes
  • Continued Clarity Adjustments
  • New: Search improvements

52 Comments

Long Schlong PhD11/12/2014, 9:32:08 PM4 votes

Any word on improvements for the boards on mobile devices? I like the boards design, but it just takes too long to load on mobile.

TehNACHO11/12/2014, 9:26:23 PM3 votes

Oh, that's why the comments looked different recently.

Test test, I guess it's pretty nice.

Actually, I have a question. For chronological view, is it possible to get an option to show every post a comment is in reply to?

Quote - Permalink - Add an attachment - Edit - Delete - >Show all Replies<

Clicking that button then shows off all the comments that the comment you're currently on is replying to, along with the next reply to the comment.

I phrased that terribly, but could something like this be implemented? I'd like to have more ways to follow conversations without switching between chronological and discussion view too much.

Daen11/12/2014, 9:38:15 PM3 votes

So, feedback time. I believe that clarity is good but vitality is just important. These clarity changes absolutely make certain things easier to read and comprehend, but I'm a little concerned that the Boards is becoming less visually inviting in the process. Here's our color palette:

  • Off-White
  • Light blue
  • Dark blue
  • Really dark blue
  • Tan
  • Black

I understand why this is, but it's not exactly inviting. It's all cold colors, and generally it's a few shades of only two colors (blue and brown).

  1. Body Text Color

Fair enough, seems to help.

  1. Links and Byline text colors

While I like how they now match the platform better, they are almost completely washed out on the lighter-colored responses. It's a lot harder to immediately see links than before on those replies.

Also, links look identical to the interface surrounding the comment. It's difficult to know what's a link and what isn't without a bunch of text around it offsetting this fact, and it removes color from posts. I'll get into this more in part 3 and my closing thoughts.

  1. Comment Colors

While I like the overall idea of contrast, this change makes the platform feel darker and more gloomy than it did before (which is impressive on an already very dark platform). It feels as though all color is being crushed to black, even if that's not necessarily the case. The darker the platform, the more there needs to be at least minor splashes of color to break it up and make it feel more alive.

In a completely opposite piece of feedback, the lighter-colored responses feel washed out. The dark ones have very high contrast between the background and text, the background and avatars/Rioter titles, and between what is hard text and what is a link. The light ones have very low contrast, comparatively speaking, and are kind of annoying to read.

I actually really like the dark comments, they look great. The thing is, they need some visual offset in the interface to really feel perfect. Summoner icons help, but they are too small and generally match the color scheme too well to really make it feel inviting.

  1. OP Color Treatment

Yeah, it helps.


Overall I appreciate the changes (other than what's listed above). I still think the platform lacks vitality, however, and making things darker overall without anything to bring life or color to the platform reinforces that feeling.

The default reply color is almost identical to the background now, which is basically already almost black. There has to be something offsetting the extreme darkness or it just feels...uninviting. What does the platform look like with a more colorful background? What about if things have gradients/patterns or other visual features as small splashes of attractiveness?

Here's an example of a link on an initial comment.

The Red Warden11/12/2014, 10:46:27 PM3 votes

Could you please change GD to General Discussion since all it does now is confuse people.

ProfDrDeath11/13/2014, 12:57:53 AM3 votes

Feedback:

The even tier of replies has too bright a background colour. Or the wrong color in the writing (not enough constrast between background and writing colours).

The inking around the posts will take time to get used to.

RiotRiot Sweet11/21/2014, 1:18:36 AM3 votes

Another quick update: We've doubled the character limit on comments and removed the character limit on discussions. The team will monitor the change moving forward to make sure it feels right and adjust as necessary. Enjoy!

BRBGTGBOWFLEX11/20/2014, 12:17:59 AM2 votes

Update:

Boards continues to be vastly inferior to forums.

Lumus Avatar11/12/2014, 9:32:48 PM2 votes

I want item tooltips to be viewable via hover in someone else's post in the same way they are viewable when choosing to put them into your post.

Ad Astra per Asp11/12/2014, 9:54:34 PM2 votes

Much more readable already, thank you. Dark background should still be a 2ndary option for the about 10% of people alive who actually like it and a light background with dark text at least in the main text areas should be default but I digress.

Xela Syab11/13/2014, 6:13:35 AM1 votes

I thought you were updating the summoner spell, I am disappointed.

DarkÇide11/13/2014, 7:55:47 AM1 votes

The old forums were much easier to navigate. What is this mess?

The old category and breakdown of forum section was just better.

I don't even know where to look in these categories for say GUI/HUD and camera?

At least half of the categories just add visual noise and have no value.

Pyro11/12/2014, 9:57:01 PM1 votes

I've been posting some huge feedback posts to PBE Boards about the items (example) and one thing that I'm missing is the header hierarchy. Currently the only way to do subsections is

#Header

Sub-header (just bolded text)

However, sometimes i would like to highlight something in the first paragraph, and that would blend in with the sub-header, especially if I throw in

a quote block to

  • bring up item changes
  • in a separate container

then just having a single bolded title is not enough to start a new section, especially when the text is already full of things like lists, quoteblocks and icons.

#So I use headers for all sections, big and small

and when I need to group two headers into one bigger block, I use the line to wrap it up.


#This allows me to start a new section.

It would be easier if we had Header 1 # and Header 2 ##. ## being the bigger one.

Also, Reddit's small text triggered by ^ is really good for annotations.

CoolKnightST11/13/2014, 6:52:16 PM1 votes

What about a patch indicator next to the date so whe known from what patch perfective the player commented or posted a topic.

jinxedchef11/15/2014, 2:06:13 AM1 votes

But the boards will still have this weak ass reddit rip off format? Then it still sucks

IronChefBoyardee11/12/2014, 9:36:06 PM1 votes

Making a rioter's (or any persons) text bright white can be jarring if you're in a darker environment. Maybe have that brightness fade or disappear after a couple seconds after going to that comment?

Boogie Man11/15/2014, 12:27:26 PM1 votes

Love this update. <3

FreshAsFebreze11/13/2014, 5:54:26 PM1 votes

Riot should be less worried about boards and more worried about saving the game.

dialMARK4acti0n11/12/2014, 10:14:19 PM1 votes

Are you still implementing the "Subscription" feature?

Siachi11/21/2014, 1:34:30 AM1 votes

Anything in regards to making the search function better? I still feel like the OPTION to make search results appear chronologically would be greatly appreciated, if you assume that people are looking for RECENT, and therefore relevant news on their front page.