Community Go-ers, Lets Real Talk.

BallisticMouse·1/7/2015, 8:58:00 PM·16 votes·4,180 views

Every once and awhile I see a thread about how Riot doesn't include themselves enough on board discussions, honestly I agree whole heart-edly, but does anyone think that even a slight add-on to the reason they dont is the pure hatred mostly every thing they say gets?

For example, I seen many posts saying they should tell us why Sona was being nerfed. A day later I see a Riot member explain it and everything he said was in the negatives. He was polite, nice and explained it very thoroughly and had literally no reason to be voted down.

All i'm trying to say it, just because you disagree with someone's opinion doesn't mean you have to hate it. Explain, just as thoroughly as them, why you think the changes don't work and move on. Maybe even vote them up for actually involving themselves.

Thoughts?

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Sir Frosthaven1/8/2015, 11:28:31 PM6 votes

It's a fun exercise in thought, really!

To me, community reaction can be analogous to a rushing river. You can stand on the side lines and predict the way it will flow to some degree, but it's in the swimming that you truly experience it.

As someone who started from within the community I usually stay relatively active (whether it's important conversation on boards software or discussing what a potion tastes like). There is certainly some mental checks I consider before posting - "is this something I actually know about?", "How will this be perceived?". Placing a comment on a post brings a lot of extra attention to it as a rioter. I do not work on champion designs for instance, so I won't be posting to those comments (lest I be forever quoted as the oracle of "but he said!". As a personal rule I also avoid topics that can blow up in my face such as race, gender, religion etc.)

Yes, it's like a rushing river indeed. Every river has it's rocks, but the swim can be an eye opening one. Passionate players and passionate staff make for an unforgettable community - one that I'm proud to be a part of.

Daughter of Nox1/8/2015, 6:15:49 AM3 votes

As representatives of Riot, employees have to be extremely careful when posting on the boards. I am pretty sure that there is actually a training course that all Riot employees undergo that teaches them how to properly interact with the community. While communication with the playerbase is encouraged, it is not required. With all of that being said, I feel that no matter how politely-worded or thorough an explanation may be, if people are upset about something, they are going to be upset. And--usually--they will take that frustration out on you, since you're the only one who can, in their eyes, change anything. (Which isn't even always the case, since there are so many different departments within Riot.) By the way, I know which thread you're talking about.

Players didn't downvote his post because he was impolite or something like that, they did it simply because they didn't like the content of his message. A dagger wrapped in silk is still a dagger. And I am sure many people felt as though that dagger wrapped in silk was plunged into their back when Sona got nerfed.

Hilltop Sunset1/7/2015, 9:12:12 PM1 votes

I hate it it sucks.

.....(get it?)

HowPlayGAEM1/9/2015, 12:57:48 AM1 votes

{quoted}

For example, I seen many posts saying they should tell us why Sona was being nerfed. A day later I see a Riot member explain it and everything he said was in the negatives. He was polite, nice and explained it very thoroughly and had literally no reason to be voted down.

All i'm trying to say it, just because you disagree with someone's opinion doesn't mean you have to hate it. Explain, just as thoroughly as them, why you think the changes don't work and move on. Maybe even vote them up for actually involving themselves.

Thoughts?

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but c'mon, the guy asked why Sona's W and E felt less impactful. FFS, those two skills were MASSIVELY nerfed in the rework, and someone remotely associated with balance being clueless about the relatively recent nerfs is NOT something I will upvote.

His comment about Sona being perceived as weak is also a red flag, since the purpose of the rework was to make her power "visible"; if only Riot's magic data harvesters can gauge her massively OP status and deduce a movespeed nerf, then something is very wrong. If Riot's magic data harvesters were so good, abuse cases from the past would have been quashed before they even arose; instead we got Alistair.

So no, I will not hesitate to downvote a Rioter for ignorance of massive nerfs and vague shoddy explanations. An upvote or downvote is earned, and their employee status does not make them special in that regard.

For example, Riot building its own network = upvote. Riot deleting its old lore and having nothing new to replace it with = downvote. Riot's refund policy = massive downvote. Riot Kateykhaos = upvote. Cass rework = downvote. Soraka rework = upvote.

Simple. Their feelings or PR-speak is irrelevant.

Bloodstone671/9/2015, 11:44:39 PM1 votes

Doyou think it is in anyway unfair that people get reported by the truly toxic players just because they point out the fact that said player isnt even attempting to be a team player?

LilStacey871/11/2015, 4:11:39 AM1 votes

No comments, but defiantly an upvote