Polls are irrelevant on a board with up/down votes

L0reweaver·12/4/2014, 4:57:20 AM·4 votes·1,818 views

Why are there polls? It just occurred to me that if a post with a poll is first viewed by those in negative favor of the idea then not only with they vote no on the poll but the post will be downvoted into obscurity before some who may have voted yes even see it. Positive polls would receive the opposite treatment but you would already have the upvoted thread so the poll would be irrelevant.

I supposed there could be a case where the negative outcome of the poll was so important to the community that the post would get upvotes but that seems rare to me.

Anyway, just ranting. Here, have a poll to test.

12 Comments

Paragon Fury12/4/2014, 5:17:12 AM6 votes

Because questions with more than 2/a binary yes/no answer exist.

TheFallenShaw12/4/2014, 12:54:14 PM1 votes

And up and down vote are useless when 70% of board users dont up or down vote

Lwnt12/4/2014, 4:50:58 PM1 votes

How do you make polls on post I am so confuse?

Daen12/4/2014, 5:56:54 PM1 votes

Polls are useful because they can show gradient and can also be detached from the main message of a post. I put a poll in every thread I create (haven't made one in a long time) because I like to see why people are voting. I might have a poll with the following options, for example:

  1. I agree, CMs could be good
  2. I disagree, CMs would be bad
  3. Thread wasn't interesting
  4. TLDR

This lets me see whether people are voting because of agreement, or because they don't feel it's worth their time. Something interesting with polls, by the way, is that they generally have more activity than the votes. Even in this thread's poll, you have 2 people that agree with you and 3 that don't. Why is the vote total not 0?


Voting would only show an amalgamation of yes/no, it doesn't show any of the reasoning for voting a certain way. I am also pretty biased against up/down voting as the sole metric, because voting encompasses a lot of factors. It becomes a choice where a user has to weigh factors against each other to select a vote, and it's just easier not to bother. Here are some of the factors:

  • Degree of agreement
  • Assessment of quality
  • Assessment of tone
  • Consideration of comment position/attention
  • Conversation value

For example, let's say someone makes a post that is really aggressive and poorly written but I heavily agree with the overall message the user is trying to convey. I have determined that I agree strongly with the comment, my assessment is that it's very low quality and has very poor tone, I don't particularly want it to receive attention, and it doesn't really have conversation value. Do I upvote it, downvote it, or just let it lie?

Hyrum Graff12/5/2014, 12:47:14 AM1 votes

In this case I voted 'yes' in the poll, but didn't downvote you.

That's because I disagree with you, but don't think your post is bad enough to deserve losing visibility.

dustwind812/5/2014, 5:21:30 PM1 votes

A poll gathers information pertaining to the question. Some people will be stupid in creating the answers, either in how the answer is phrased or in not giving enough answers. Polls are useful in some threads as they can be used constructively. For example, in a champion creation thread you can have a poll where the question is,

Would this champion work in the game?

  • Yes, the champion is fine how it is.
  • Yes, the champion needs some balancing though.
  • No, the champion would unbalance the game.
  • No, the champion would not be fun to play as/against
  • No, the champion is too similar to others.
  • Other answer (please explain in the thread)

This lets the original poster gather feedback, without loading the poll in a biased fashion.

The up votes and down votes are more of a system used to show how interesting a thread is. If a thread is bad, it will be down voted. In other words, up voting and down voting is more of a quality guide.