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10 bans live in Normal Draft

Riot··6 votes·19,924 views

We are bringing 10 bans to Normal Draft starting with patch 7.11.

Our plan is to have 10 bans live for about a week for testing before rolling out to Ranked Solo/Duo and Flex. We’ll be releasing on the NA server first, followed by other regions.

For more information on how the new ban phase will work (and how it differs from the format used in the LCS), check out the announcement post here.

167 Comments

Vaynesanity65 votes

that awkward moment when i queue for a 5v5 draft and its still 3 bans

Xstrolite2 votes

its coming with patch 7.11

NephilimKiller25 votes

this IS patch 7.11 and 10 bans aren't here yet

KhamiBrawler14 votes

7.11 is a part time job

Kiramis135 votes

It's live now.

MXM4088032 votes

It's only in the normal draft no ranked right now. I'm pretty sure it's going to come later

Michael Oxmal28 votes

Riot trolling, it's not even live in normals.

How Do You Meta25 votes

You get a ban! And you get a ban! And you get a ban! EVERYONE GETS A BAN!!

TheOmegaBear0925 votes

10 bans is live! Except...no it's not! And a lot of us (myself included) were really excited for it!

Kiramis133 votes

It's live now.

Icathian Creed19 votes

So when exactly DOES this go live?

Solari Fortune12 votes

Yasuo No cure for Fools x 10

I Love Thresh10 votes

But it's not, tf rito [zombie-nunu-tears]

Icathian Creed7 votes

Thank the Void. Never again will I have to fight Fiora

dragonoverride7 votes

i dont see the 10 ban

Zettahash6 votes

Went in to play drafts and was first pick, didn't get to ban, 6 bans only...so I dodged lmaooo riot you're funny.

lRlSH6 votes

my biggest question is why remove the sequential banning? it take out so much in the way of counter picks and bans that way and makes countering you enemy so much harder bc many time you can guess who will be played by the champ banned. dont get me wrong the 10 ban is nice and all but doing it like this doesnt seem to be the best way...and i get solo q and all but for example in ranked ppl actually try to counter pick and ban to give their team a better shot at winning the match bc we all wanna move higher in elo but with this new ban system its gonna be a lot harder to pull off good counter bans. rito if im wrong please explain your thoughts on the new ban system and why you feel its a better system then the sequential banning

punkfish13325 votes

Guys it says by patch 7.11. Read the whole thing and chill it will come out...

korppi tuoni5 votes

Load up the client, you see on the bottom right where it says V 7.11-#######. We've already got patch 7.11 up dude.

Sukishoo8 votes

Read the patch notes though " A new 10-ban draft format will be rolling out to normal and ranked matches over the course of the patch, and item sets make their debut in the updated client!"

korppi tuoni5 votes

Read the thread title "10 Bans LIVE in Normal Draft"

Sukishoo3 votes

Read the content in the post, its still rolling out.

Dodidly5 votes

Yasuo mains can go back to blind where they belong. Also I like the simultaneous bans because I think people have to make the choice between having more champs off the table or getting a common ban off the table with the other team for stronger champions at the moment. Cool if people.

ChupaThangE5 votes

The ban system needs to be changed to snake bans. It just seems like a crap shoot and lost all of its fun because you cant ban strategically anymore.

The Real A Twice4 votes

Darius Main here. looks like I'll have to find a new main when this goes live.

Noctkazaku2 votes

Same :/ The few times he isn't banned (if ever) I will be so happy though. And I would suggest possibly Kled for a new main, he is a ton of fun and strong.

MisterWolfe3 votes

nah you can play top against me and get crushed by my Yorick

OldManOvergrowth4 votes

Riot, please get rid of this. For people that enjoy a select few of play styles, this ruins the game. I realise that it would only seem fair for everyone to have a say in the banning but getting rid of 20 champions is annoying. They say in ranked (which I don't play because I like having fun) you should have 3 champions for every role. so at least 15 champions, and 20 can potentially be banned. Currently I like playing top lane, and most top laners are disliked and banned by default but usually I would have at least 2 ready to go. Now with 20 bans means its even harder to play the champions I like. In the old system each team had 3, it made choosing a ban more meaningful rather then "everyone pick your most hated champion". You would have to consider the current meta, your champion, teammates champions, and counters. Also majority of the time you wouldn't ban 3 in 1 lane, then enemy mid could have someone like Ahri and your mid laner picked Lux (immobile and skill shot oriented) someone who can do very poorly against an Ahri . And since Ahri doesn't have much of a reputation she is still very strong but Lux didn't think about that because "someone is bound to ban her shes so strong someone has to, I hate Syndra even though I know how to fight her, she just annoys me. So I'll ban her." Even though most people hate top laners, you woudln't ban 3 top laners if your mid would struggle against someone who is very mobile, you would spread them out so 3 our of 5 roles could do better off than fighing their counters. Now there is less reason to think about your ban because someone else would probably ban them if they have a bad reputation like Riven and Yasuo (btw great timing for the skins) I realise this was still a possibility in the old system but with only 6 bans there was more thought required. Also for anyone who says "just play blind pick" I hate fighting to be the first one to copy&paste my role and get stuck with jungle or support because everyone loaded in faster than be and I should try again next game. Please remove this riot.

R.I.P Yasuo 12/13/2013 - 6/1/2017

YeOlCableKing3 votes

Cant wait for queues to take even longer now. Champ select takes a ridiculously long time as is. At the very least you should have the game loading in the background. Shit you could even have a little sandbox playmode if the game loads before everyone picks their champs and people just run around as a minion or some base champ or something.

korppi tuoni9 votes

Please read the notes on how regular play 10 bans is gonna work, so you can then start complaining about either permabans or duplicate bans instead.Champion select should be shorter now.

Redscorcher3 votes

it's finally live for real guys!

E3Lv33 votes

I like the quickness of the new system,but some champs will be perma-banned. I just think this will make more work for riot, because they will have to balance the champs more

n0oba3 votes

This is a horrible idea... 3 bans is perfect. Hell I don't even worry about bans anyway. learn to deal with the champions that are tough, or you will not get better.

Orcus692 votes

when will the new runes and honor system ....come live

Lexyy11 votes

i think 7.13 for honor system, but im not 100% sure

shdwfng10 votes

You're right, the most recent Riot Pls video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY67yCaGdno&t=0s) said that the Honor System would be coming live in a few patches, but the runes won't be until Preseason

Kairoptra27 votes

New runes are coming preseason (sometime in November) They usually save gigantic changes like that for preseason or midseason

CarpetMuncher692 votes

Is anyone else having the problem though that the play button wont even load?

Bendhimover2 votes

It already takes too long to wait for 6 morons to ban.. Now we have to wait for 10 bans?? And then on number 9 the person doesn't ban and we have to go back into Q and start over again?? #lesstimepicking #moretimeplaying

Majki10 votes

Simultaneous ban (35 secs only x1).. pls read

FrozenSushi2 votes

6 is the new 10 summoner 31

domiDREtion2 votes

ok so I have an actual question about how riot thinks this will affect ranked play for people who are just starting in ranked. Since only 16 champs are required to play ranked won't new people run the risk of having more than half their champ pool banned? personally I think after years of adding champions to the game the number of champs should be raised to 30 for ranked play but especially now with 10 bans.

ByonKun3 votes

I think they mentioned that they will raise it to 20 champions required with this change.

TeemoShroom4202 votes

on the picture above, who the f would ban azir? lmfao

SuperRiceBoi2 votes

Great, now cuz I chose to spend my money on runes I won't have enough champs to even play normal draft. Why Rito? item 3070 item 3070 item 3070

Zuroke2 votes

Much like so many others are saying, I think this was a step in the wrong direction, it removes so much from the champ select stage simply to give everyone a chance to ban. Yes I understand everyone banning is more fair than just 3 people, but this most certainly is not a good system.

ResinBomb4202 votes

The two downfalls to this are not being able to properly ban off based on picks and having teams be able to ban the same champion. If theres a way to change this in the near future that would be awesome. I just feel like the new ban phase isnt as strategical in these situations.

Dëkú2 votes

I don't really like the version of the 10 bans, I'd rather have Riot make the bans like they did in the LCS (3 bans, then 2 bans)

thelionetc2 votes

This new banning system makes me hate playing draft I play ranked just to get away from the new ban system. Like several people have already said it takes away the strategy of bans. the increase in bans can be nice but makes it meaningless. If you insist on having the 10 bans then please do a snake order or do it like in the tournaments so that the bans have a point instead of the current crap shoot for banning champions.

Rall Mekin2 votes

You have certain mains (yasuo/Darius) that are basically perma banned by this. I don't think you thought through how this will affect certain champions playability.

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