Please stop asking others to report.

You're telling me...

Yeah, I used to ask others to report as well :V But I learned that I was so, so, so in the wrong and corrected that misbehavior.

Where has riot officaly said that only one report is needed though. I know its right but cant find the link.

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Most people are just severely uninformed about the systems they are using. Ignorance can be cured with information though; it's the ones that refuse treatment you have to worry about ;3

Such as myself!

If it's that bad, it's always possible to send a support ticket if you think an automated system isn't enough!

Don't risk being punished yourself, just send a support ticket! :D

The number of reports in a given match does not matter in the slightest. The current system looks for patterns in the report criteria across a large number of games. So, no, it doesn't need to be explained if your Anivia is using abilities to screw you, it just makes you feel better.

That's a really dumb way to think about it.

Oh, it is.

It's also a waste of time and energy. Much more efficient to just report, keep calm, and move on.

one of the reasons i usually report the people who ask for others to be reported. I also assume that they are being toxic in team chat to the person in some way as well, but i can't know that for sure.

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I do struggle with why asking for reports is punishable. Firstly, I'd like to make the distinction between "badgering teammates for reports" and "suggesting reports". Badgering teammates for reports should be viewed as a form of verbal harassment, such as "you're terrible if you don't report this person", arguing with someone IN-GAME as to why a behavior is reportable, etc.

But just asking for reports? It's a call for action against toxic behavior.

I've had several teammates these last few days, where I'm jungling, and one of them gets pissed that I don't gank or camp their lane, so they start following me around in my jungle to steal large monsters from me. My teammates aren't watching me 24/7, they don't see this kind of griefing. While I may say "okay dude stop following me in my jungle and stealing large monsters from me", I DON'T say "report 'x player'". However, there should be nothing wrong with that. If I was laning and my jungler said this and explained what was happening, I would totally agree that the griefing player should be reported, and I would thank the jungler for bringing my attention to it.

Players should have zero-tolerance for toxic and griefing behavior in games. Being the "watchful bystander" (thus, taking no action) is not enough. "I wasn't the one being griefed, so I shouldn't report" just leads to the griefer and toxic player to keep going on, UNTIL the toxicity reaches that "watchful bystander" and affects them in the future.

It shouldn't be burdensome to see a teammate ask for reports on a toxic/griefing player. In fact, it should be a good thing, to be able to cooperate with your teammates to filter toxicity out of the community.

Asking for reports is unnecessary because the system only needs one report to flag the game for review. That's to protect solo players from premades who decide to gang up on one person. It also gives that solo player a voice if they are being griefed by a premade.

Let's take your scenario: You have a teammate griefing you in the jungle, stealing camps, etc. Your teammates are focused on laning and don't see what's happening.

If you call out the griefer, yes you bring attention to his actions, but you also distract your teammates from watching their own lanes. You also give the troll the satisfaction that they've gotten under your skin. And, at that point, you've announced your intent to report them, so they no longer have any reason to hold back. They got a reaction from you that they can counter report with the possibility of taking you with them if they get punished.

And, if they happened to be completely oblivious that you saw their actions as griefing, you'll likely start an argument that, again, will get you both reported.

You are not notified every time a person you reported is punished. It's actually rare that you are; you only get the notification when your own report triggered it, and you still won't always be notified so that is in no way a good metric to determine system efficiency by.

because multiple reports means more people are seeing the behavior.

You're... kind of correct.

The problem is the number of reports in a single game doesn't matter, it just marks the game as one game you were reported in. If you were reported once in nine games, it would have more weight than nine reports in one game.

Why? Because this is a public, team game. If one person feels that a report is necessary, it's likely that multiple people were affected in that game already (one person reporting an intentional feeder doesn't mean one person was affected by that feeder, everyone was).

Ignoring the multiple systems we have in place to ban feeders and whatever else, some better than others and some more new than old, it also doesn't help the game at all. Asking people to report another person just has you adding to the squabble during a game, sometimes it's honestly better to mute someone and just report them after game.

If there is a serious offense, like a permaban worthy offense, send a support ticket. That is much better than asking others to report, and is more likely to grab the attention of a live human being to handle it rather than an automated system that isn't perfect (and neither are humans, but you know what I'm getting at).

Not to mention asking for reports is sometimes(?) reportable itself. I've had people ask others to report for the stupidest things, like asking someone to report X for playing something off-meta. And that's just one of many reasons why the x9 report is worth less than the "reported in nine games" deal.

Unless when someone seriously deserves a ban.

In which case, you send a support ticket.

Look, multiple reports in a game aren't nearly as strong as being reported in multiple games with a single report. There's a few reasons for it being that way (one person reporting probably means multiple people were affected anyway, premade abuse, etc), but honestly if someone really deserves a ban from one game alone you should probably send a support ticket so it (eventually) gets picked up by a live person instead of trying to game the system despite having good intentions (because if you could game it by asking people to report for you, what stops trolls and toxic premades from doing the same?).

Oh, I'm sure I've been reported before. Nobody's perfect, and I'm far from it.

But the point is that it's the number of games you're reported in that matters, not the number per game. And asking for people to report for you just adds to the "noise" during a game, and only serves to make situations less enjoyable than they already are.

It's not terrible, it's just pointless and puts you at needless risk anyway.

The more games a toxic player is reported in, the more likely they are to get punished.

Nine reported games weighs more than nine reports in one game.