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The Player Behavior System Needs A Change (Written by the most banned player in the game)

kP54koDbB4·8/9/2016, 8:32:11 AM·7 votes·1,413 views

Before we get into things, I'm a veteran player, I've played the game for 7 years with no problems until as of late 2014. I was once high d1 before masters came out, and yes, I've become a toxic monster because of the way the community is. But I feel as if my experience in the game with probably over 20,000 games of league played in my life gives me some legitimate grounds to say something about the development of the player behavior system. I am not saying that I should be unbanned because of a player behavior system flaw, Most of my 42 permanent bans are well deserved.

Toxicity is 9 times out of 10 an outlet for angry or upset players, whether they are upset at real life or a game. Lately, as of the end of 2014, toxicity is at an all time high. Not only is toxicity at an all time high, but the entire internet at this point has grown to be too sensitive and honestly at this point I can't stand being part of any community.

Lets review in my opinion which is one of the most unwarranted PERMANENT bans I've gotten in my life. http://pastebin.com/3pQPAkCN [pastebin isnt visible apparently] Now this excerpt is probably the most toxic thing I said after the whole game rolled out and I was more or less infuriated and had enough of the match > C H: ur bad C H: and when I say bad C H: I mean bad as shit C H: beyond bad C H: atrocious C H: you need to uninstall

Now not saying this is an okay thing to say to your teammates but this was the only thing that I said which warrants a chat restriction at most. I was permanently suspended for this game, and many others as I've had over 40 accounts banned. Back in season 3 you could literally say anything you wanted with little to no punishment, but note that SO MUCH LESS toxicity was actually present back in season 3. In CS:GO you can get away with saying the most racist, sexist, hate speech you could possibly think of, but honestly I see more toxicity in league.

I'm sorry but people get angry when their team is thick-headed and uncooperative, you wanna know what they do in a working environment to someone who's thick headed and uncooperative? They fire them, because being thick-headed and uncooperative is just as bad as being an asshole. In a team game where nobody listens to each other anymore, and the fact that riot is so uptight about how people act in the game (Ever since Riot Lyte had a say in the behavior team) that they feel trapped. When you feel trapped, you get angry. The uncooperative players continue to see the light of day when they can get away with whatever they want and the problem never gets solved. The more cause for someone to get angry, the more toxicity surfaces in game. Back when everyone was cooperative (season 1-4) there was a huge decline in toxicity. Personally I've grown to be a VERY angry player, and I tend to lose my patients with people quick, but I give them a chance and try to ask politely, and when that doesn't work I don't want to play the game anymore.

The problem at this point will never be solved and everyone's telling me to go find a new game to enjoy. But I stick around for the amazing champions I do like (Ahri, Irelia, Renekton, Lulu, Graves, Jinx, Lucian, Syndra, Vayne, Gnar, etc.). I stick around because I played this game throughout my entire teenage years (since release in 2009). So I just continue to get new accounts and end up banned because my team wants to not cooperate. League saved my life in a way, and it helped me connect with some of the coolest people on the internet, including the girl who lives with me now and I plan to marry one day. So when I run around and say stuff like "I don't care about the game, I have the WORLD RECORD for permanent bans on league". It's a bunch of bullshit that I don't care, because I do. I miss the game for what it used to be, and I keep giving the game a chance, and riot a chance to fix the game. I may be a toxic monster spun out of control at this point but I really do care about the game.

Sincerely,

Cheddix / Justin

42 Comments

CooL Ice Tea8/9/2016, 8:37:05 AM9 votes

Can we upvote this for a Riot member so he can watch over this 42 accounts bans and get this guy banned tyler1 style? I mean 42 holy jesus ... this is on purpose.

Deep Terror Nami8/9/2016, 11:22:51 AM6 votes

When you look at minor toxicity like this by itself, you're right, it appears to not warrant a permaban.

However, that is not what resulted in your permanent ban. This was just the last straw in a long history of toxic behavior, consistently being a problem in the community.

If someone slaps you lightly once, should you get a restraining order? No, that would obviously be a gross overreaction. What if they spent every waking hour slapping everyone within arm's reach? Yes, something drastic needs to be done eventually when minor punishments have proven to have little to no effect in preventing it. This is how it works here; a punishment isn't just the result of one game usually, but is one on a path of escalation with everything on the road considered.

Some players like to say "Well, there is more toxicity in X season than Y season had". You're going to need to show something more than anecdotal evidence; you personally becoming more toxic over time doesn't reflect on the community, just you. Riot has taken great strides in improving reform of players with the Instant Feedback System and (somewhat) behavior rewards; A player will receive punishment within only 5 minutes of the triggering report, along with a reform card to help them understand where they went wrong.

If a dog shits on the floor and you hit him two hours later, all you're doing is abusing the dog. He will not learn to go outside first, he'll just learn that you enjoy hurting him. I doubt Riot would use this comparison with players, but the concept is essentially the same; people learn from their mistakes more easily if they are corrected immediately rather than when they've already forgotten what they did wrong. The Tribunal voting system was notoriously slow, and no more accurate than the IFS today.

Any player can place blame on Riot, the game, or the community, but in the end they alone are responsible for their behavior. There are tools available to them to improve their situation (such as muting), but if they refuse to use them and are a problem then Riot doesn't have any choice but to push them up that escalating path of punishment until the player decides he wants to change, or gets permabanned. Someone who gets all the way to the most severe punishment yet still does not take responsibility for their own actions has no right to say it wasn't their fault.

Sarutobi8/9/2016, 9:12:28 AM5 votes

What you fail to see though is the fact that punishment works in tiers. So it's not so much about how worse your level of toxicity is, but how frequent it is. Once you get hit with your 2 chat restrictions you are going to move up when it comes to punishment. That is just how it works. You also don't need to vent in the game chat. You have better (more mature ways of) handling your anger when it comes to playing this game, or anything for that matter. Most people probably just yell at the screen or punch a pillow out of anger. They don't call their teammates worthless or that they need to kill themselves and think that is suppose to be good sportsmanlike.

Kitty Cat Tosha8/9/2016, 8:43:50 AM3 votes

Where I work, assholes get fired just as quickly as the thick witted ones.

The Smith of Lie8/9/2016, 9:12:25 AM2 votes

{quoted} [...] Lately, as of the end of 2014, toxicity is at an all time high. Not only is toxicity at an all time high,

[...]

Back in season 3 you could literally say anything you wanted with little to no punishment, but note that SO MUCH LESS toxicity was actually present back in season 3. In CS:GO you can get away with saying the most racist, sexist, hate speech you could possibly think of, but honestly I see more toxicity in league. [...]

Citation required.

Astôlfo8/9/2016, 3:15:59 PM2 votes

If you're the most banned player in the game, you're also one of the dumbest, because you still apparently haven't learned jack from being banned that many times.

dominusx8/9/2016, 9:10:41 AM2 votes

first of all 42? really not even tyler has gotte to that level imma go to his chat and spamm him beta now till he gets pissed lmao. I agree with what you said about people going soft i mean i type simple things like wtf when our adc flashes in the frontline to kill the enemy support and he goes like wtf stop beeing toxic what the fuck am i supposed to say to him to let him realise that his stupidity lost us the damn fight this is where thick headed ppl come in i've had the same experience as you but i always did something else to cool off (use a punching bag,take a shower,go to the gym etc) so i never really got banned untill recently where i got my 1st perma because apparently talking shit to people who intentionally troll on your road to masters and make you tilt and demote is fine but when you tell them they are shit you make the game negative for them.....bitch the guy is 0-5 in 10minute and has a mobility boot only as item AM I THE ONE MAKING THE GAME NEGATIVE? but w/e dont expect anyone to agree they are brainswashed i'm not gonna go to the point to justify you with so many perma's but i do agree that people are too soft for the internet i personally like trashtalking other high elo players when we play and i like when they trash talk me when they outplay me makes the game spicy and fun and gives you a little fun minigame with your Rivals friendly rivarly is always nice

Water Vapor8/18/2016, 9:41:43 PM1 votes

This would trigger Riot Lyte

Votable Jester8/9/2016, 9:24:17 AM1 votes

So the ultimate question was "How many times has this guy been banned?"

Just a small edit: Did anyone notice the reference I made?

KVbqbFsC8e8/9/2016, 9:33:01 AM1 votes

I agree with that 100%. I eventually got permabanned after a bunch of prior suspensions, all stemming from the fact that I would call my teammates "bad". And even though I got multiple restrictions before being perma'd, I never changed. I could ever understand or comprehend why calling someone "bad" warranted any punishment at all.

A player who is actually bad enough for me to call them bad, would be something like 0/10. And despite them creating an extremely frustrating experience- being 0/10, directly giving me loss, taking away earned LP, and wasting at least 30 mins of my time, I would call them "bad". While regularly hearing insults of "autism", "kill yourself", etc, I didn't think "bad" could even be considered punishable.

GamblerOfLives8/9/2016, 10:57:28 AM1 votes

so, you had 42 perma bans..and you said nothing about the system, until this ban..42th ban:)..WHY COME NOW OUT OF THE CLOSET???

Ellis McPickle8/9/2016, 10:37:35 PM1 votes

I think everyone here can agree, you should stop playing this game all together and seek professional help for being so angry over a video game.