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Thoughts on Honor loss after punishment

TiddyWinkles·10/25/2019, 4:52:27 PM·2 votes·2,090 views

Recently I received a 10 game chat restriction (which I fully deserved) however I noticed that I had been reset to Honor Level 1 this close to the end of the season. I understand that Riot has taken a firmer stance against toxicity and flaming in game and I do firmly believe that people need to be punished for some of the horrible things that they say. This being said however I don't believe that for a single game I should lose all of the progress towards Honor 5 that I've worked for all season. While what I was saying was not honorable in the slightest, I don't believe that a single frustrating game should stain an otherwise immaculate track record. I understand that punishments need to be delivered, and I am accepting the consequences for my actions however in the future I believe that a complete Honor reset for the lowest level of punishment doesn't necessitate honorable games in the future.

For a first time offender such a harsh punishment may in fact lead to further toxicity and harassment in later games, under the assumption that there is far less to lose. While there are tiers of punishment for the severity of offenses (in terms of chat restrictions and bans) there is no gradient for Honor loss, which means that even the smallest infraction will put you on the same tier as people who are repeatedly caught cheating and demeaning other players. I would like to encourage Riot to explore the possibility of a more fair Honor reduction in relevance to both the offense, and the player's track record. An otherwise kind player who has a bad day should not be punished at the same level as someone who repeatedly flames and leaves games. Thank you for your time and consideration while reading this.

15 Comments

GatekeeperTDS10/25/2019, 4:59:32 PM6 votes

Think about it this way - why are you more deserving of exceptions based on the timing of your misbehavior? What happens with a punishment has been public knowledge for a long, long time - you get knocked down to Honor 1 or zero.

If you've received a punishment (which in your case absolutely did not happen from just 1 game - your reform card is a SAMPLE), then you've broken the rules and not adhered to the Summoner's Code.

It's a simple system. You received a punishment for a pattern of behavior, and these are the consequences. The time to think about it is before you get punished, not after.

If you were Honor 5 and you got knocked down to Honor 4 because your infraction wasn't "bad" enough, then you have no incentive to reform. "Oh, I can get knocked down to Honor 2 in increments and still get my rewards." This system can't work that way. A punishment isn't supposed to feel good, and there has to be consequences.

Kei14310/25/2019, 5:27:59 PM2 votes

You know .. you may think you have immaculate behavior over many games, but your chat restriction is a proof of otherwise.

The reform card only shows you 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior, doesn't mean you were punished for 1 game alone.

I challenge you to write to https://support.riotgames.com and ask them how any games you were validly reported in your recent games. Their answer will suprise you.

Imperial Pandaa10/25/2019, 7:36:32 PM1 votes

Honestly, there are really only 2 changes I would modify with the current IFS and Honor. Keep in mind, purely referring to the Verbal aspects. One of which I would really like to be considered.

  1. The one you may like. Bring back a Warning/Lighter punishment. I say lighter punishment because there needs to be something so the reform card can pull logs. Honor wise, could be anywhere from remove x plips/checkpoints to dropping directly to H2 locked honor. <- This could work, but I don't feel strongly about it. Only difference between being H2 and rewards Pre Honor system is you can't grind out a punishment before the cut off.

  2. The other thing involves the Zero Tolerance aspect more or less. This has nothing to do with your post though, so will not expand.