@Riot - Behavioural conscientization week. - Suggestion

Siegfriedx1··2 votes·580 views

I think we should have a conscientization week. A week where we should be seeing videos talking about the consequences of small actions toward people around you in league, about the rage chain this can lead and other interesting stuff.

I will be using a random commentary of one of the many users of our board "Burger n Fries" on the subject of Tyler ban to illustrate the point:

Burger n Fries (NA) answer to the perma ban of Tyler1:

"its sorda what mute is for, perma ban isnt right.... riot made a mute button to stop this, but people never use it, so its not Tyler's fault, its the people who didnt use the mute buttons fault. [...]"

Font: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/RUAlzpbg-tyler1-70-win-ratio-but-ruins-games-nice-logic

I understand that this kind of bacterian thinking is not exclusively of their fault [people that uses it]. We grow this kind of idiotic line of reasoning when we don't give enough attention on sharing information with others or addressing the consequences of actions, like calling someone bad names, to people around us.

"People made weapons and martial arts for self defense, but woman don't use it. So it's not the rapist fault when a woman gets raped." it's not a kind of reasoning we, as advanced as we are, should be seeing so much without having some concern about it.

I will be not talking about Tyler, although i agree with the punishment, as this kind of behavioral issues are deeper than just this player and who support it. What i will be saying is that maybe this kind of outrage to Tyler ban can be used at least as an important argument, so we can have a "behavior consequences week" when riot and players could make videos explaining the consequences and SHOWING the consequences of certain types of small behaviors on league sharing their experiences and promoting mutual respect.

A peaceful way to impact the community and who you believe deserve a message. With respect.

5 Comments

TheSushian1 votes

First off, I don't really understand the analogy of the rape quote -- you're better off not having that in your argument or post period, since the argument itself has no hold whatsoever to the issue at hand of behavior. It's literally comparing tomatos to machine guns -- I can't even seen the parallel here of the self-defense to harassment, unless construed to a very, extremely slim argument.

Second, while we could observe the impacts of said problems over time and inquire over it, at that point it would force Riot to have to acknowledge the community in itself is toxic, when in reality only a small percent of the community is toxic, but a large percent of what it does and how its done is broadcasted. Which is something that shouldn't be addressed anyway, considering it's a set amount of individuals that repeat same offenses that cause such an issue. Granted, acknowledging it does help, its something I wouldn't pull as a good way to help stem the problem at hand.

Siegfriedx11 votes

First off, stop.

"I don't really understand the analogy of the rape quote "

I can help you with that:

Burger n Fries (NA) answer:

"its sorda what mute is for, perma ban isnt right.... riot made a mute button to stop this, but people never use it, so its not Tyler's fault, its the people who didnt use the mute buttons fault. "

"People made weapons and martial arts for self defense, but woman don't use it. So it's not the rapist fault when a woman gets raped."

Try understanding now. It was the proper exemplification of flaw thinking behind this player commentary. The player is using as implied argument that having a degree of possible protection justify one's act to negatively affect someone. Instead of disagreeing with the act on first place and caring about the necessity of using this kind of protective thing. The problem it's not who need protection, but who is making they need protection. In this case, toxic players.

Second, stop.

"Forcing riot" and promoting a reflection week are completely different things. Also i was completely clear when i wrote:

**"When riot and players could make videos explaining the consequences and SHOWING the consequences of certain types of small behaviors on league sharing their experiences and promoting mutual respect." **

So that would make it more a connection between players promoted with help of riot than whatever you are describing.

Take a minute reading again the post bro! I can assure you it's a great idea and we are needing this right now.

TheSushian1 votes

Again, as to the first one, again the rape argument, while in reference to an if/or statement, is still not a good thing to compare logistically to mute conversation concording to physical harm. It's not a good comparison on the principle of ethics -- Yes, what you said is correct, but logically someone will come by, glimpse at it, and see many different meanings taken far out of context because rape in itself is not a topic you tend to compare to other aspects, unless inflictual towards a person's physical being and the law around rape and the public view of it. I'm not criticizing what the quote means, I'm criticizing the choice of the quote. Any other analogy could work truth be told.

For the second, I kind of did scurt that (my bad, try binge reading at 4am). It's still not something Riot is going to do, because that will therefore show what the mindset Riot has in regards to banning, and to do that then gives accessibility to trolls or people who do intend to use the system for harm, all for the purpose of ruining other peoples' lives. Otherwise the idea sounds good.

Siegfriedx11 votes

Thank you for taking into consideration what i wrote on reply! And thanks for the feedback too.

TheSushian1 votes

No probs! I apologize if I came off condenscending in what I said -- I just had to say it before people rode coat-tails towards it :P.

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