Dear Riot, Why I have quit and uninstalled after $215 Spent

Kraythax··6 votes·1,063 views

I am a paying customer, just logged onto paypal and found out I've spent $215 on this game. No biggie, I can afford it. But I am not going to be spending more. Sure I really loved the idea of Ornn so now I will not get to buy him or play him but thats ok. In case you want to know why, Here it is.

The first reason is Toxicity. Probably the most important reason I am leaving. The player base on this game is the most toxic of any online game I have ever played. The players are NASTY and rotten to each other. They spam the N word in chat in games, rip you to pieces for asking a question on the forum and if you believe the forum everyone here is Diamond ranked and you are naval lint. Being in this community constantly pisses me off.Three quarters of the games I play people are NASTY to each other, even if they are winning. There is no incentive to be not nasty and no punishment to being nasty. I play a game to have fun. I don't play a game to be told half the league community has had physical relations with my mother. I am a working professional and this is NOT entertainment. Its so toxic that it angers me and it shows in my chat. To prove my point about toxicity, you will likely only need to read the replies to this post.

Secondarily, When it come to the game and ELO rankings your personal performance means nothing. You cant get better because you are matched with people that feed a lane 0/5 in the early game so you take a loss. Doesn't matter if you went 5/0, placed 15 wards, bought 2 control wards, got good CS and ended up with an A, you still get demoted. So the game has no path to become more skilled because the entire ranking system is based on wins, not your personal performance. When you are low ELO at the start you can never climb out because you are paired with the worst players and no matter how much you work on your play, you cant get a win rate to matter. In fact I am convinced that something in the matching code is matching me with nutters that play Sona in mid and blame me for losing. The only way is to learn the game, learn how to play better, create a new account and get ranked (buying champs all over again) then play silver a while, get better, create a new account and so on.

Since you cant rise in rankings, since playing the game is a toxic experience; I find that I have a couple of good times (even when I lose) but most of the time the game just upsets me, makes me angry, puts me in a bad mood and doesn't accomplish its primary goal.

Entertainment.

How do I come back? Make the game fun. Make it less toxic. Make a ranking system where MY performance is the major factor in MY ranking. Then send me an email. I have more money to spend.

-- Regards, -- Robert

27 Comments

Funkin Dunkin3 votes

We have all quit at least 2 or 3 times since season 1. All for the same reasons. Eventually you miss the game and forget the trash talking community and come back. Then you remember why you left in the first place lol. But get that mental reset, come back, and enjoy it again until they become too much again. Then lather, rinse, repeat. We'll be seeing ya again.

53436278DEL12 votes

i spent more and i was sad lol... so i requested to have my account deleted wont miss it all

EII 4w5 Enby2 votes

I've quit a few times due to the chat scurrility, returning months later. These days, it's rare that I'll start a game without typing "/mute all". The chat has great potential for strategic discussions and commendations, but how often do you see either? Occasionally, "gj" ("good job") comes up but it's less common than effort-filled diatribes.

Throughout my years of playing, I've reported a couple hundred, rule-violating people in the post-game lobby. Every report was appropriate, polite, well-described, and contained exact quotations of the culpable player, when possible. Unfortunately, I can only remember one occasion where I got a message saying that a player I reported was punished by the Tribunal; most of the guilty escaped.

Perhaps a player will not be banned unless they receive successive reports, but I'd suspect that reporting is uncommon. Since many players are toxic, they would not report other rule-violators because the reporters might attract the spotlight toward their own similar infractions (ex. Riot might read that match's chat and sees that both players spewed hatred). Perhaps some people (like me) get tired of reporting people every game and just want to play, figuring that the toxicity is too rampant to expunge.

I think Riot's on the right track with giving occasional Key Fragments to sportsmanlike players. There may be too many toxic players to punish, i.e. too many to manage within a given timeframe, so an incentive is a great start. One issue I see with it, though, is that after muting everyone (at a match's start), I find myself honoring someone post-game without knowing whether or not they were a jerk; it's: a) bask in the evil to stay informed, or b) enjoy the game but commend those who may deserve nothing, possibly giving them key fragments. Something further will be necessary to truly cleanse the community.

Perhaps Riot worries that if they ban a significant portion of the community, they'll lose RP sales. This is dangerous [IF it's their true fear], since the more toxic the community gets, the more that will be condoned, as Riot would only want to ban the worst to save time and money.

For example, if 1% of all players are toxic, Riot won't mind jettisoning them; if 50% of all players are toxic, Riot won't have time to look through all the cases and/or wouldn't want to half their potential income, so fewer crimes would be considered reprehensible. In essence, the more toxic players, the greater the leniency for toxic behavior, as there's only enough time to punish the worst. Perhaps Riot sees successive reports on a summoner as 'worth investigating' and single reports as negligible, no matter how serious the infraction is. I'd postulate that, unfortunately, many group reports are done to bully a player "who sucked". How many times have you heard "report this [CHAMPION NAME]" in chat simply because the player's score is low or that player made a mistake? Many players get enraged, and need to go witch-hunting, so this group-reporting is often misused.

Perhaps key fragments should awarded to those who got a toxic player banned. That way, fewer people would be bystanders and the toxic players would get the multiple reports per game they'd ostensibly need to be investigated. Two caveats would be: 1) the increasing number of reports the Tribunal would have to investigate, and that 2) more reports versus a player might be necessary, as reporting would become more common with the aforementioned banning incentive in place.

Weathered1 votes

The community is very toxic, however only certain sections of it are. A lot of the boards responses are pretty mean, but that is because it is made up of people who took the time to visit and post on the forums, where if your intent is to troll that can be a pretty lucrative platform.

However, the entirety of the game is not like that. ELOs like Bronze through mid Gold can have some toxic players, but often times if you make it past that it is clear waters. About 80%+ of my games have 10 words or less between all of our teams, and honestly it sometimes makes it hard to honor people because there is literally nothing to base it off of.

And regarding not being able to climb, yes it is possible. Yes, I would agree with the fact that your individual performance can determine how you climb and it is not as difficult as most people make it out as to do so. However, it is difficult to climb if you don't go about it the right way. Simply playing the game and trying to get better won't get you anywhere because often times you'll be weighed down by toxicity or frustration. If you really want to climb, you have to put in effort to making yourself better. Watching streamers, following guides, learning from pro players, practicing cs, etc. It's time consuming and not for everyone.

If you want to play the game for entertainment and don't want to have to dedicate your pass time to vigorously getting better (I can assume you don't really have the time for that because you have a profession), the best way to play is with a closed group of friends where you play games together. Just sitting in soloQ and having to deal with such a large playerbase isn't entertaining, I get that.

And as a final piece of advice, stating how much you've spent or that you don't intend to use money on the game anymore won't necessarily add any weight to your post. Often times people will use statements like that and it's sort of considered entitled without the context. Not many people, even Riot really, will care about a single customer ceasing to spend money. I think you really weren't intending to come across as that and were just giving additional details, but I wanted to just point it out so that you aren't surprised if a Riot support member or other poster shuts you down because of it.

Kraythax2 votes

I am not going to be LCS and have no illusions of that. In most games the ranking system reflects how players do, not wins and losses for the whole team.

As for me stating my spending, the point was that I WAS a paying customer. If Riot doesn't care about thier paying customers (as opposed ot the free to play ones) then I made the right decision.

Weathered2 votes

Riot has taken the public stance that they care about all players regardless of spending. They have taken a hard stance at making the game free to play without money exclusive gameplay content (only cosmetics) and balance around player statistics instead of wants from the paying portion of their playerbase. That's their platform.

Kraythax3 votes

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Riot has taken the public stance that they care about all players regardless of spending. They have taken a hard stance at making the game free to play without money exclusive gameplay content (only cosmetics) and balance around player statistics instead of wants from the paying portion of their playerbase. That's their platform.

Riot is a business. If they don't care about paying customers then they don't need my money. If they don't need enough people's money they will no longer be a business. It seems that many people on the internet seem to think game companies produce their products for charity.

DrCyanide2 votes

Yes, but they're a business who only makes money by selling fancy paint jobs while giving the cars themselves away for free. As long as they keep making paint jobs that people want, it doesn't matter if you or me buy it or not.

Whether or not they're taking care of "paying customers" is a matter of opinion. There are plenty of paying customers who get bans because they're making the experience worse for other players (just read the Player Behavior boards). I don't run into reportable behavior frequently (maybe a player or two every 5 or so games), and when I combine that with the number of people who I see banned here I have a hard time believing that your experience could be all that different from mine.


I've got a friend who climbed from Bronze 4 to Silver 3. It took time and perseverance, but he did it. His philosophy was this:

40% of games you'll lose, despite your best efforts. Learn what you can from them and move on. 40% of games you'll win, despite how terribly you played. Be grateful for them, learn what you can, and move on. The remaining 20% are the games that really matter. Give them your all.

U No Gank Me Pls1 votes

A) Your first complaint would not happen nearly as much if they simply addressed the problem in your second point. That being said, B) You are literally the person you're bitching about in your second point. Out of your past 8 games, you have had a KDA of 1 or less. That means that your kills AND assists combined do not equal the amount of deaths you've had. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for that to happen.

You should not be playing ranked. You should be playing norms. Because the fact of the matter is that you're ruining games for your team. And people don't like that. So they are "mean" to you. Is it warranted? You can easily argue no. But, regardless of whether it is "right" or not, it's going to happen. You should not play ranked, where people play to win, if you do not have the slightest idea of how to play the game.

Ranked should not be for everyone. League wants to be recognized as a sport. Let's compare to real sports for a second. Do the shitty players play on the varsity baseball team (provided they aren't in a school of 18 boys)? No. They do not. However, everyone can play summer baseball and dick around. There is no reason League can't adopt the same principle. But, the community wouldn't want that. So you're going to continue to have players in ranked that ruin games and make the game stressful for people that want to win. It's going to cause toxicity. It's just the nature of it.

Kraythax3 votes

Your post just convinces me I made the right decision. Your response to my honest message to riot can be summed up as "You suck so shut up noooob LOL." Heard it all before. I've had good games, I've had bad games but if you looked at the replays you would see 90% of my deaths are AFTER one of the lanes has fed and super charged the opponents. At that point the only way I achieve a good KDA is to sit in the base AFK. Again, my decision being validated numerous times with replies.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

I agree with you, they don't have all the context on when you died or how. But you're jumping to conclusions about what they mean, and you are taking it personally when it was in no way meant as a personal attack.

In no way did they say, "you suck so shut up noooop LOL"

They literally explained their point in the most polite way possible. People rage when games go badly, particularly in ranked where people care more about winning. Normals are still a little competitive, but at least people aren't quite as big a dick about it when the games start to go badly.

I think that the point they were trying to make is that you will have more fun in normals where people don't get as tense.

Kraythax3 votes

So I cant play ranked and have a good experience without people being toxic?

Yep, made the right decision.

But then I knew that when I sat down and thought that I go away from the game more angry than I started most of the time.

ModPrandine3 votes

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So I cant play ranked and have a good experience without people being toxic?

Yep, made the right decision.

But then I knew that when I sat down and thought that I go away from the game more angry than I started most of the time.

That's not what they meant and you know it. What both of them are saying is that if you're not having fun and are getting stressed out in ranked then try playing other modes such as Normal/unranked where there's less pressure to win and rank up. Now obviously your results may vary and it's your choice in the end but it's worth a shot at least.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Thanks for chiming in Prandine. It's annoying having people like the OP twist our words every time we try to help them.

ModPrandine1 votes

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Thanks for chiming in Prandine. It's annoying having people like the OP twist our words every time we try to help them.

Trust me I know the feeling, and I can relate to the OP in a way where we both like winning and are competitive, and having people behave like jerks constantly, underperform and/or not listen is frustrating. Hopefully everyone here is still willing to have a respectful conversation with each other and that this doesn't derail into a rage-fest.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

EDIT: Absolutely, their experience is a frustrating one and I feel for them too. I just wish they would perk up and notice that we all care about the same things, just a little differently.

Don't worry, I'll disengage from the conversation before it turns ugly.

Learned that lesson a while ago and it's early enough in the morning that I haven't forgotten my morals for the day... yet anyway. ;)

Kraythax2 votes

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EDIT: Absolutely, their experience is a frustrating one and I feel for them too. I just wish they would perk up and notice that we all care about the same things, just a little differently.

Don't worry, I'll disengage from the conversation before it turns ugly.

Learned that lesson a while ago and it's early enough in the morning that I haven't forgotten my morals for the day... yet anyway. ;)

I don't know how I can be any more clear. Let me try to be more brief.

If I look at the average of games I play and my fun level 85% of the time its not fun. Not just because of losing (that's always a chance to learn) but because while losing I have to be dealing with some of the most revolting people on the internet and reporting them does no good. When a game is not fun, when there is no path to make it fun, when its impossible to get to games where others care about the team and the game, its time to stop playing and stop paying.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

If you really feel that way then it's not like I can stop you from leaving. I'm sorry to see you go. And I'm sorry your time spent on league has been more stressful than fun.

If you decide to give it another chance, I recommend finding a good gaming community, there are lots of discord servers out there, and plenty of them are full of friendly players that won't act like the strangers you've had problems with in the past.

Kraythax2 votes

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That's not what they meant and you know it. What both of them are saying is that if you're not having fun and are getting stressed out in ranked then try playing other modes such as Normal/unranked where there's less pressure to win and rank up. Now obviously your results may vary and it's your choice in the end but it's worth a shot at least.

The reality, Pradine, is that the normal game modes are the same. The toxicity is still there and no matter how much I work on my skills, it doesn't matter unless the rest of the people on my team are doing the same. So the concept of playing ranked is not only competitive vs the hamster wheel of normal modes. In addition, I want to play with people that care about the game and their skills, not just learning Sona by playing her in any position, even the jungle. I could create a new account and maybe be ranked higher but there is no way at bronze 5 I will ever get enough wins to get out, no matter how good I play. And no matter how much I work on my jungle clear and warding and CS, it doesn't matter if my team has hyper charged the enemy to the point that they take out my 3k hp in less than a second when all the lanes collapse mid game. I start the first 7 levels 2/0, 1/1, sometimes even 3/0 and then in the mid game I get destroyed and end up 3/10 because the other lanes fed.

So the summary is I cant get any better, I cant compete, my personal performance means nothing and at the same time I have to deal with half the internet having had relations with my mother.

Its a game, not a lifestyle. I will never be in LCS and only 1/1000th of the poeple on the forum that pretend they are gold actually are. When a game ceases being fun I stop playing it. This game is DESIGNED to be unfun unless you are gold level and create a smurf to go waste bronze players and LOL about it. I'm 46, I don't have time for this and if I want to be tortured I can go down town and buy that for less money.

The people posting here say Riot doesn't care about my money. OK. If that is truly the case then I will go play something else.

ModPrandine1 votes

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The reality, Pradine, is that the normal game modes are the same. The toxicity is still there and no matter how much I work on my skills, it doesn't matter unless the rest of the people on my team are doing the same. So the concept of playing ranked is not only competitive vs the hamster wheel of normal modes. In addition, I want to play with people that care about the game and their skills, not just learning Sona by playing her in any position, even the jungle. I could create a new account and maybe be ranked higher but there is no way at bronze 5 I will ever get enough wins to get out, no matter how good I play. And no matter how much I work on my jungle clear and warding and CS, it doesn't matter if my team has hyper charged the enemy to the point that they take out my 3k hp in less than a second when all the lanes collapse mid game. I start the first 7 levels 2/0, 1/1, sometimes even 3/0 and then in the mid game I get destroyed and end up 3/10 because the other lanes fed.

So the summary is I cant get any better, I cant compete, my personal performance means nothing and at the same time I have to deal with half the internet having had relations with my mother.

Its a game, not a lifestyle. I will never be in LCS and only 1/1000th of the poeple on the forum that pretend they are gold actually are. When a game ceases being fun I stop playing it. This game is DESIGNED to be unfun unless you are gold level and create a smurf to go waste bronze players and LOL about it. I'm 46, I don't have time for this and if I want to be tortured I can go down town and buy that for less money.

The people posting here say Riot doesn't care about my money. OK. If that is truly the case then I will go play something else.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then, though I feel like you're having a bit of confirmation bias here honestly. In my experience I've had games where we've won with a rager and lost with a rager, and I've also had games where we've won/lost with no ragers or trolls. Additionally some games are fun and others are not-it varies from game to game and has nothing to do with what ranking you are. I don't play ranked so I can't speak for what it's like there but in the pvp and co-op vs. ai modes I've played in LoL this has been my experience. What I can say though is that if queuing up solo has been a frustrating experience for you then try getting some like-minded buddies together and group up with them, as chances are you'll have more fun in a group than solo.

Ultimately it's your choice but claiming that LoL is designed to be unfun just because of a few bad experiences is taking it too far in my opinion.

Kraythax2 votes

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We'll just have to agree to disagree then, though I feel like you're having a bit of confirmation bias here honestly. In my experience I've had games where we've won with a rager and lost with a rager, and I've also had games where we've won/lost with no ragers or trolls. Additionally some games are fun and others are not-it varies from game to game and has nothing to do with what ranking you are. I don't play ranked so I can't speak for what it's like there but in the pvp and co-op vs. ai modes I've played in LoL this has been my experience. What I can say though is that if queuing up solo has been a frustrating experience for you then try getting some like-minded buddies together and group up with them, as chances are you'll have more fun in a group than solo.

Ultimately it's your choice but claiming that LoL is designed to be unfun just because of a few bad experiences is taking it too far in my opinion.

Hundreds of bad experiences. Look at my history here:

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=kraythax

Look at the games I win vs the games I lose. Even when I lose Im participating in a third of the kills or more. I am still most of the time positive KDA even though l lanes collapse and at the same time I cant rise because my personal performance means nothing in the ranking system. Not a thing.

As for playing with buddies, Im not in high school or college, I play at odd hours, often at night after 12 hour work days. I dont have a bunch of friends to play with unless I want to get fired for ditching my job in favor of a game.

King Voltaire1 votes

I think that U No Gank Me Pls is wrong to say that you shouldn't play ranked. The only way to get better is with experience. I can duo with you if you want. That being said, a forum is not really the place to post this sort of rant. You won't get sympathy from anyone here.

Kraythax2 votes

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I think that U No Gank Me Pls is wrong to say that you shouldn't play ranked. The only way to get better is with experience. I can duo with you if you want. That being said, a forum is not really the place to post this sort of rant. You won't get sympathy from anyone here.

I play ranked to get better. I work on the speed of my clears of the jungle. I try to work on my warding and vision. I buy control wards, I try to improve my ganking and my decision making. You know what the result is?

I get on teams where the ADCS press the towers constantly and complain I don't dive the tower to gank for them. When I do gank they complain I took the kill from them. "KS KS KS Jarvan Useless" they spam chat. I tell them to target the ADCs in a team fight, they don't, they dump it all on Garen because he is "scary". I try to come into lane and push off the enemy adcs from the minion wave so my team mates can farm and deny enemy the CS, they complain I didn't get them the kill. Then they go aggressive because that S is more important than us winning to them, they hyper aggressive diving towers and the enemy gets fed. I have a good early game and then by the time mid game comes around my team is all over the map getting picked off, the enemy is fed and it doesn't matter if I am awesome, I get melted. So I end up with an abominable rating despite all the work I have done to get better and there is no path. The only way I do better is to play with better people but I cant do that because there is no way to rank up.

Meanwhile apparently everyone on the internet knows my mother intimately, people intentionally feed to torpedo ranking because they drew support and are ticked no one will fill so they figure to teach them a lesson they will play crazy and feed in a way just convincing enough to not be able to be called intentional. Then there are the people that spend 3/4 of the game typing in chat rather than playing. What are they typing? "You suck .. you are a loser" because they have an 0/4 score and I have a 1/0 score.

As I looked back on the last 4 months of playing this game I came to the realization that I just wans't having fun. I was getting angry and that mood was transmitted into my real life and my family had to deal with me being in a bad mood over a video game.

Now since I hear on this thread that Riot doesn't care about my money? OK. Seems with all of this together my path is clear.

I appreciate the volunteer to Duo but I wasn't kidding when I said I uninstalled. Good luck to you.

bullshot1 votes

You just described blind pick with 300 words to many. All you needed to say is community is trash :)

U No Gank Me Pls1 votes

You suck so shut up noooob LOL."

Not at all what I said. I said not to bitch about make a huge post about how bad your teammates are, when you literally play the exact same.

if you looked at the replays you would see 90% of my deaths are AFTER one of the lanes has fed and super charged the opponents.

You are continuous at the bottom of your team in terms of KDA. So it's not like they did bad and then you did bad. You're the same. There are plenty of games that you're either the worst KDA on your team or second to worst.

Also, try ganking then? Are you just AFK farming while the enemy jg makes plays, and then crying about teammates not doing good? Or are you failing ganks?

Again, my decision being validated numerous times with replies.

Good. One less person that averages a score of 2/5 whilst bitching about teammates.

Kraythax1 votes

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Not at all what I said. I said not to bitch about make a huge post about how bad your teammates are, when you literally play the exact same.

You are continuous at the bottom of your team in terms of KDA. So it's not like they did bad and then you did bad. You're the same. There are plenty of games that you're either the worst KDA on your team or second to worst.

Also, try ganking then? Are you just AFK farming while the enemy jg makes plays, and then crying about teammates not doing good? Or are you failing ganks?

Good. One less person that averages a score of 2/5 whilst bitching about teammates.

I play tanks. I give the kills to my laners, my assist counts are constantly high. As are you, termite. You are a perfect example of the nastiness in this game. I never claimed I was a pro. However, at least I am not a complete coward posting with a level 10 account and no match history. At least I didn't make an account to troll people on the boards without the required "equipment" to back up my claims with match history. Oh I know, you are a smurf from your diamond account? Yeah you and EVERY SINGLE troll on this board. And you are just as full of raw sewage as the rest of them.

References To embarass you:

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=U+No+Gank+Me+Pls

http://lolprofile.net/summoner/na/U%20No%20Gank%20Me%20Pls#Runes

On the good side you are pretty good against bots ....

Oh my I am laughing so hard it hurts.

U No Gank Me Pls1 votes

I find it ironic that you claim to be so against toxicity, yet are taking every chance you can get to insult people on this thread with an opinion that is different than yours. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. But that's neither here nor there. I will address some of the things in which you've said.

I play tanks

Looking at your last 10 games, 6 Shaco and 2 Soraka (soraka with heal lmfao). So ok. You've also played 43 ranked games from what I can see. 6 on Shaco, 5 on Raka, 2 on Lulu, 1 on Noc, and 1 on Fiora. That's 15 games. You have also played 7 games with jax, who is not a tank. So that's 22 games with those champs, or 48% of your games. So "i play tanks" is questionable at best. Also, J4 is not a tank. He is a fighter. Building him full tank hinders his performance, but that's another story anyway.

I give the kills to my laners, my assist counts are constantly high

Your KDA takes assists into account. So having a horrid KDA is still a reflection of "giving teammates kills". You have low assist numbers. So giving teammates kills is clearly not the problem here. In fact, you had literally the least amount of assists in your last 5 games played, in which case I got bored and gave up trying to give you the benefit of the doubt there.

I never claimed I was a pro.

And nobody said you did. We did state, however, that you're bitching about your teammates being bad when you're literally trash. Which makes it funny that you're bitching about teammates. Nothing implied you claiming to be pro.

However, at least I am not a complete coward posting with a level 10 account and no match history. At least I didn't make an account to troll people on the boards without the required "equipment" to back up my claims with match history. Oh I know, you are a smurf from your diamond account?

I'm not sure how any of this has to do with you? What does my account have to do with you? If you must know, however, I don't member the login details to my account (which was also tied to my undergrad email that I no longer have access to), and recently got back into League after getting done studying for my board exams. So I made a new name. Again, this has nothing to do with you being a horrid player yet bitching about how "bad" your teammates are.

The last thing I'm going to say to you, because quite frankly you aren't worth any more time, is that you claim to be done playing this game, yet you've played 8 games in the last 10 hours, with the last one about 10 mins ago. So 0 for 1. You claim to lead your team in assists because you're a tank and give kills to your teammates, yet you're constantly at the bottom of your team for KDA and assists, and have played about 50% of your games as non tanks. 0 for 2. You also claim that you're tired of the "toxicity" in League, yet you are about as toxic as they come. 0 for 3. Have a jolly day kid.

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