Why isn't banning a teammates champion reportable?

HungryJack619·Dec 5, 2017·7 votes·1,795 views

I just had a teammate purposely ban my main, who I had signaled that I plan to play, only because they were made that they got filled and wanted my role. Why is this not a reportable offense? For that matter, why can you only wait until after a game to report another player's behavior? This seems like a rather crucial flaw.

I know what the response will be: "But you can report them for it after the game."

Actually, you can't. The reason they do it is to get someone on the team to dodge, which is what happens nine times out of ten, which means their behavior goes largely unreported. There needs to be an option to report players in champ select.

13 Comments

Final Spark LuxDec 5, 20176 votes

Everyone has every right to pick and ban whoever they want. Words from Riot. Yeah, it sucks if they ban something you wanted to play, but it isn't against any rules.

HungryJack619Dec 5, 20171 votes

I understand that, yes, in a majority of situations the player has legitimate grounds to band the champion. But when a player states in-chat that they are doing it to troll and try to get someone to dodge because they got filled?

Final Spark LuxDec 5, 20171 votes

You're saying this happened?

"I'm going to ban your pick to troll and make someone dodge because I got autofilled."

Somehow I doubt anyone would say that. Regardless, that's something else entirely, and unrelated to the current argument that revolves around banning someone's pick, which all boils down to everyone has the right to pick or ban whoever they want in any role they play. There is no "majority of situations". In any situation, you are allowed by riot to pick or ban any champion you desire, regardless of what your teammates opinion is. All there is to it.

HungryJack619Dec 5, 20173 votes

If you doubt that people would admit to trolling, I fear that you haven't been playing League very long. I experience it on an almost daily basis.

You're right though that my title could have been better-worded to more clearly state what my issue was.

Final Spark LuxDec 5, 20172 votes

I'm willing to bet I've been playing a whole lot longer than you. You shouldn't make assumptions based on a variable that can't be controlled. While you may experience it often, I personally don't. I can't remember the last time i had someone who said they were intentionality trolling.

HungryJack619Dec 7, 20171 votes

Then that suggests that you're not either not playing ranked, or are playing in a drastically different elo than I am. I'm not kidding when I say that I experience this, either on my team or from my opponents against their own team, every 3-4 games. And this isn't just my own experience, as most people that I know that frequently play ranked have a very similar experience to this. Just the other day I had a Nunu support who took smite and counter-jungled because he was mad he got filled. I had an opposing ez rage quit in all chat today because I was camping him. I've had players sprint up mid to int and type in all chat asking the other team to please kill them. I've had people type in all chat that they plan on feeding (I get at least one of these a week).

People admitting to their rulebreaking is an admittedly dumb, yet still common practice, in my experience.

Jo0oDec 5, 20172 votes

It absolutely sucks when it happens, and I sympathize with your frustration.

Current Riot opinion is that the value of being able to ban highly-contested pick/ban champs, even against the wishes of your teammates, outweighs the troll potential of banning your teammate's champ of choice. There's also a troll potential, though in my opinion a small one, of somebody hovering a contested pick/ban champ to prevent it from being banned and then picking a different champ, should friendly bans be blocked.

I wholeheartedly disagree with Riot on this one. In terms of positive vs. negative impact on numbers of players, there's no way that unilateral bans on contested champs provides more benefit than the detrimental impact of trolling people by banning their pick.

But hey, this is the world we live in, at least for now.

General Esdeath Dec 5, 20172 votes

If they say "I'm banning your champ, give me your role" you can send a report ticket with a screen shot (or without, they can see pre-game chat).

HungryJack619Dec 5, 20172 votes

I guess my point was, assuming they succeed in getting someone to dodge, you don't make it to end-game, which is the only time you can report the player. Thus, this behavior goes largely unreported.

General Esdeath Dec 6, 20172 votes

I say just stick with it and take the loss for the report until Riot adds something like that without it being abused.

HalcyonDwellerDec 5, 20172 votes

Banning somebody's intended pick may not be punishable, but talking about it in chat to antagonize and bully them into dodging or trading roles is.

If the player says anything in chat to indicate that they did it to troll you, by all means report them, because Riot will investigate and their automated system looks for types of behavior that are often reported. If players who get autofilled often ban their teammate's picks and then tease them about it, and this is something that is consistently reported by players, Riot will pay attention and add it to the list of punishable behavior.

Every time a player does this and teases you in chat about it, your should definitely report it. This will help Riot identify if the community thinks this is punishable.

On the other hand if they just ban your pick and say nothing, unless you are first pick you will have no leg to stand on. Because they could just really badly not want the other team to get that champion, and it might be something they are so afraid of that they are willing to ban it even if that means risking pissing you off. You do have to consider the possibility of them just not wanting to play against it.

kaironenDec 5, 20171 votes

Although a report in champ select could potential fix this issue, it would also cause it to be highly abusive. I mean, people would report others just for banning other people's champions when they didn't mean to ban their champion. They probably only banned them because they thought the champion was frustrating to play against or that they are broken.

HerFeatherKnightDec 17, 20181 votes

This happens to me every time someone asks for my role and I say no. Then if I dodge to not play with a toxic teammate, I end up with the autofill after the Dodge timer.

People basically have free range to make the game miserable for you and then you end up getting punished twice for their behavior; Once with the Dodge timer and again by having to spend the next 45 minutes playing their filled role anyways. Meanwhile, they get off Scott free and probably get rewarded with the role they wanted.