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What is the logic behind not being able to earn honor if you get punished?

Only Mid Veigar·2/5/2019, 12:52:19 AM·1 votes·1,831 views

I had a thought about this recently, as I'm still grinding out the dumb chat restrictions, I am playing fairly well in friendly games. To the point of people on my team complimenting me, the enemy team commenting in all chat, all just generally really positive situations.

The problem is when the game ends and my team chooses to commend me, it's literally wasted if I can't benefit from any gains to honor. I'm not sure if this is how it works, but if I get commended, shouldn't that maybe show that I'm doing better? Or is it just another slap in the face that Riot feels we need to be further punished and actually tell our team in the game that "Hey, don't commend me if I do well, it's wasted because I'm being punished."

That's a very backwards stance to bar people who are being punished from gaining honor, as someone like me who earned the gold horn leadership icon and portrait frame was genuinely a good, positive force on the team, despite and misgivings about my behavior/language in game. Being in the Navy, I hear it way worse from my Chief than I see any of the childish banter and trash talk that goes on in game, and that is from a position of respect and responsibility and leadership.

Can we get clarifications on what a commend does for you, if you're being punished? If it doesn't do anything, then it just reinforces that the restricted chat punishment is a time-out zone that Riot sends you to, and you don't deserve anything no matter how well you play or how positive you are in the game. It's like if you do everything you're supposed to, and you're rewarded by your team, Riot takes that away because "You're just acting this way because you're being punished." or that's the vibe I get. I dunno what Riot thinks but doesn't matter if my carry is in a prison jump suit, if they do well, I commend them and they deserve to be recognized for it. Likewise me getting honored by my team should count towards me, rather than just be lost to the void.

11 Comments

ModPeriscope2/5/2019, 12:58:44 AM3 votes

I'm not sure what you're asking. You get honored in game, and you don't feel like those honors are doing anything? They do increase your honor progress to the next checkpoint/level, and they give you flair after honor 3. Other than that, they don't do much.

Imperial Pandaa2/5/2019, 1:02:39 AM2 votes

Disclaimer: I am not a Riot employee, this is simply how I imagine the system works with "honor locked".

Honor lock isn't a time based thing based on cases people have brought onto the forums. So it makes the most sense that is an invisible Honor level outside of normal progression. Now, it is an honor level with a lower threshold, so more like a checkpoint.

As you play games, you get honor. If everyone honors, then you get a bit more. If people honor you specifically, you get a bit more. If you honor, you get a bit.

What this means is that you still benefit from being honorable and getting honors. It just may not feel like it since it isn't normal progression.

Kei1432/5/2019, 1:08:45 AM2 votes

You will progress in honors even if people don't honor you. In fact, getting honored is the smallest contribution your honor progress.

The biggest contribution to your honors is you playing games without being validly reported.