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the fragility of the league community

oGlLionel·6/23/2019, 8:03:38 PM·3 votes·2,289 views

Here we discuss the insiduous mentality that plagues the league community : V I C T I M H O O D I've been playing for many years now. Some players are cool-headed and able to take criticism. But that's a small minority! Maybe 80% of the league community is made of crybabies. At the smallest sign of judgement, they crumble. Anytime someone is assertive and strong-minded, they feel threatened. Look at the board : criticise something and you'll have swarms of riot fans trying to belittle you with insults. That's not debate. Debate is exchanging ideas. That's hysteria... Fuelled by a fragile ego. And riot promotes this. They have developped all the tools and rhetorics to encourage kids throwing tantrums : censoring chat, banning people for "negativity"... NEGATIVITY! Imagine people who cannot play a video game because they feel negatively judged! [removed by moderation] There are tons of fun solo games. What has degenerated between the moment when people could have tons of fun threatening each others online, and now that people need safe spaces where the smalles the disagreement provokes a mental breakdown?

29 Comments

ChaosLordMadis6/23/2019, 9:14:43 PM9 votes

Most people do not give constructive criticism.......

ModPeriscope6/23/2019, 8:58:47 PM4 votes

I edited out part of your post. While you're free to have an opinion about League players, I don't feel like it's appropriate to talk about "suicidal players."

Riot has a set of rules to abide by. As does any private institution, they have that freedom to set those rules and enforce them as they choose to. You can call it "catering to victims," but when I sit down to play, I want to win, and that means teammates working towards that goal. If you're negative, then you're not helping that teamwork, and thus you're working against that objective.

Banter is fine, but no, threatening others is not ok in this game. It may be fine between friends, but realize you're playing with others in game who may not agree with that.

If you have any questions about this moderation action, don't hesitate to reach out to the Boards Moderation Team via:

AeroWaffle6/23/2019, 9:54:18 PM4 votes

If one acts like an asshole in real life they often get treated like an asshole.

To demand otherwise on the internet is an attitude of entitlement that plagues the internet.

Zardo6/23/2019, 10:08:17 PM3 votes

Agreed. There are so many sensitive players playing league- they'll let their teammates performances effect them and insult them over a video game instead of focusing on improving themselves.

ChaosReyn6/24/2019, 1:07:21 PM2 votes

Your delivery is the reason for this getting so many downvotes.

However, it is an issue that has merit, so I'll take the bait. This is just my opinion, but there is quite an issue with victim mentality, as well as simple inability to take criticism. When I say that though, I also have to say, in order to differentiate this claim from yours, that there's a very specific set of "rules" to classifying someone as a self-made victim. Firstly, your criticism needs to be and must be constructive and assertive in order to make that assumption.

  • "Nunu, you need to ult sooner." Constructive, direct, clearly outlines what you believe is their best course of action. Not aggressive or hostile, but still declares the message you wish to convey - ult sooner, and we have a better chance to win.
  • "Nunu, wtf?! use your fucking ult! spam ping ult CD is up" Hostile, aggressive, overall negative. Still direct, still outlines what you think is best...but in such a way that you clearly are clearly displaying contempt of your teammate.

Second, if they become hostile after this, you need to hold your constructive yet assertive stance, and not fight flame with flame. In fact, you don't want to fight at all. Say your piece, and be done with it. If they get hostile, honestly, just keep playing the game and don't bother with them. If you need to repeat that same piece of criticism over and over again after like every other fight, whatever, but the moment you deviate to matching "fuck off noob, reported" with snarky, passive-aggressive comebacks based around what you said and what you see as lack of skill, you're playing chat wars, not LoL.

Lastly, you need to accept that you could be wrong. In my previous example...if I tell Nunu to ult sooner, and he starts trying to ult sooner, only to get immediately cc'd and pubstomped, I cannot keep putting that blame on Nunu. I mean, I literally just told him to ult sooner in fights, and he even tried to oblige. This does not make it a "welp, gg, fucking Nunu" game. If anything, if I were to actually believe that's the case, I would be the one playing victim, in saying "oh, I lost the game cause teammates!" when in reality, my teammates were trying their best and even listening to me. It's possible that the reason for a loss is as simple as "we got fucking rekt." It doesn't have to be "this guy didn't play correctly." As many people who play victim as there are, there's just as many who must make a culprit to feel better, which is just as bad.

If they are playing the victim, it royally sucks. And it's still a much higher statistic than it should be. But it's actually much lower than you think it is. The issue is that there's not a straightforward way to combat it. At least, not individually. So even though it's definitely something that can be established, there's not really a good answer to "what the hell can we do about it?" at this time.

RachelDawnAmber6/23/2019, 8:10:40 PM2 votes

It's the same, "discussing" and "trash talking" or "exchanging" results the same, nothing will change. In this world we learn that "I don't give a fuck" is the motto

Same as facebook, youtube, anywhere on the Earth, where "negative emotions" are prohibited, you need to have a smile wherever you breath. So the only thing you could change this if you want, is to invest in Riot Games, that's it. and btw, your opinion is "irrelevant" [sg-miss-fortune]

R107 Games6/23/2019, 8:08:03 PM2 votes

Agreed.

People with the most fragile mental imaginable, can get so offended -- almost to the point of a mental breakdown, over someone criticising them or being negative ,etc,. in a fucking competitive game. The sad part is Riot caters to these people

Luther King Jr V6/23/2019, 8:13:30 PM1 votes

i don't always mind criticism if it's constructive and not just someone spam pinging you but i still don't appreciate it in a game because it may spark arguments and you know how riot handle these type of conversations usually..

KFCeytron6/23/2019, 10:17:48 PM1 votes

The irony that this thread serves as an example of the very behavior it decries.

Sir Saltarin6/23/2019, 10:19:24 PM1 votes

Good riddance

Imperial Pandaa6/24/2019, 12:42:16 PM1 votes

Funny you should mention debate, because it goes both ways. Someone could post a criticism and when counter points get made the OP who posted a criticism resorts to "omegalul riot fanboi here sucking dick. Lelelelel". Yup, they obviously want a discussion and not simply yes men to agree with them.

EthreainAmbusher6/23/2019, 8:17:51 PM1 votes

People play the game and like what it is, insult that and they'll insult you.

Like if you say ryze should just get deleted it's probably not going to bide well with people who play ryze, or if you say an item is skilless because you press a button. There's going to be someone with an opposing opinion, and if you can't take that then don't say yours.

Negativity is something that is very difficult to remove in a competitive game, because not very many people like to be censored, and when you do something people don't like, they get mad, and when they voice their anger it'll make others mad, and so on.

And people can still threaten each other, it's just that when you do it people aren't going to like it. People are more serious than "im gonna kill ya" and taking it lightly. and people are sensitive, it's in our nature.