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Does Leaverbuster breed disrespect for the rules?

slash mute yall·4/6/2017, 10:18:44 PM·2 votes·807 views

After receiving a legitimate Leaverbuster penalty, and crawling back through the 5 match x 20 min queue time penalties, you may find yourself penalized again, because within 5 days of the first penalty your client failed to load a match. This leads to more even more rage than what caused the legitimate penalty in the first place and you find yourself with yet another penalty since after waiting for 20 min (that for once was not your own fault), you get a team that has a mid that swears they are the best Kassadin in the game (what like back in season 2 when he was more than a broomstick in the 3rd floor janitor's closet at Riot?), a Lulu and Taric bot lane (they of course have seen this done once before and it is supposedly the best thing since bot lane Rengar and Thresh), and of course there is the JG that you do not even remember what champion they are because they have just been farming for the first 30 minutes of the match.

Does this chain reaction help or hurt? How can someone be expected to learn to respect a rule when they also experience wrongful punishment based on said rule?

Does it really change player behavior over time, or do they just double down because there is no undoing the punishment and no one seems to hear or care about their appeal, or do they quit the game for something else?

7 Comments

OnlyYouCanHearMe4/6/2017, 10:53:43 PM4 votes

Low Priority Queue is meant to be a deterrent. And it is. No one wants to have to deal with 5 x 20 minute waits. While it may seem unfair that you were hit with a second set of five 20 minute penalties, the progression up to that point was because you demonstrated a pattern of leaving/afking in games. Either because your client would not connect, you had internet issues, you chose to leave/afk in games, or you chose to dodge queues. Some of those may have been outside of your control, but some of them were conscious decisions, and because you made them, you now face the consequences of them.

Players are not expected to learn a respect for the rule so much as they are expected to learn a respect for their fellow players. When someone leaves/afks/queue dodges, it impacts every other person in that game or queue. It makes games either extremely difficult, or outright impossible to win. It causes people to lose their promotional series and mmr. It makes other players angry and ruins their gaming experience. If someone only has a limited amount of time to play, and people keep queue dodging, it may keep them from being able to play at all (this one has happened to me many times). The purpose behind having a penalty for leaving is to keep people from doing it again.

I'm sure you've noticed, the punishment system is different for leaving/afk than it is for any other sort of rule violation. Riot doesn't outright try to kick out the players who leave/afk. It's actually a very lenient system, compared to the IFS (behavioral punishments). It's set up so that players don't face harsh punishments for the occasional computer malfunctions or internet issues. It starts with a warning, and then only a 5 minute LPQ. Which can be worked off in about an hour on beginner bots. But what a lot of people don't want to hear is that their situation wasn't caused by them having a legitimate problem with the client, but because they chose to dodge/afk repeatedly in addition to having a legitimate problem with the client.

Kei1434/6/2017, 10:59:24 PM1 votes

they want the toxics to quit.

Personally I don't have too much sympathy for those that reach maximum punishment.

Astrovert4/7/2017, 6:20:22 PM1 votes

You were allowed more than 1 leave before you were punished with a time penalty. Just because you used this opportunity to troll your team instead having a legitimate accidental leave is your own fault. You don't magically get more leaves because you were punished and the game doesn't recognize accidental from intentional leaves. It is YOUR fault you wasted your accidental leaves, so now all accidental leaves will be marked as intentional.

Either reinstall or work on fixing your internet connection, but no matter what happens you wont be granted any extra leaves for accidental use. Support might have cared more if you had contacted them before you started just intentionally leaving, but now, since you decided to be a douche, it kind of just looks like what goes around comes around.