Opinion: Do players think 'Just a bad game' needs revision?

Touch My Box·Dec 20, 2016·7 votes·459 views

First off, not a toxic rant. I couldn't give a rats ass if people suck and we lose because they died a lot. They won't win their next few, I will, I will see less of them. I get the theory.

I also get that people do have bad games. Albeit rarely, a first blood that goes badly can lead to you never catching up and getting snowballed on, you end up 0-6. There has to be a protection for players on these bad games.

However, there is a point that their deaths per minute reach a point that they can no longer cling to 'just a bad game'.

The PB&M forums are really 'unskilled friendly' when it comes to players and punishments, so where do you guys draw the line?

9 Comments

MartensiticDec 20, 20162 votes

Yes, I do.

Unskilled players and outright trolls, get to excuse their actions as "just a bad game", while the people calling them out for it can be punished for toxicity.

Whoever came up with that system needs to lose his job.

TrulyBlandDec 20, 20162 votes

You can't really draw a line. You can only draw a huge grey area. That's why, to be honest, your best bet in identifying intentional feeding and trolling isn't by just looking at the deaths, or even the deaths per minute. It's about the exact circumstances of the deaths.

If somebody spawns and does a move order to the enemy fountain and nothing else until he dies, that's a pretty clear case, for example, even without a huge number of deaths. That's why Riot is using machine learning for their system, because it's more about identifying individual patterns than drawing a line somewhere and saying "everything above that is a troll".

MartensiticDec 20, 20161 votes

You can't really draw a line. You can only draw a huge grey area.

The usual apologetism defending toxic players.

But its okay, downvote me. Its the only way you can somehow create the illusion that you have an argument.

TrulyBlandDec 20, 20162 votes

I'm not defending toxic players, I'm defending bad players (and regular players with bad days).

MartensiticDec 20, 20161 votes

You are defending people who go 0/7 in 7 minutes.

You are defending people who are trolling.

TrulyBlandDec 20, 20162 votes

Apart from me never having said that, prove to me that everybody that goes 0/7 in 7 minutes is trolling without applying circular logic. I'll wait.

GemCrashDec 20, 20161 votes

I would say all Shaco players belong to hell

deathgod5Dec 20, 20161 votes

I draw the line at 3 things:

1: the player is blaming teammates. 2: the player is running into lane and dying while not casting spells or doing things to prevent dying. 3 he happens to be premade with a diamond skilled player who happens to be gold oddly enough.