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Never before I have been so toxic...

SaltyToplaneGoat··13 votes·1,373 views

I am playing this game for over five years now. Yet now looking back on my most recent games, I think I must have reached a new level of toxic. And the weird part? I stopped caring.

Why should I even bother to climb? So I am on the same level as some legally boosted moron? I am gold already, that means maximal rewards apart from a irrelevant border color. If I don't climb it doesn't matter. And if I can effectively cause someone I don't like not to climb either I am veeeery ok with that.

Why should I even try to impact the game when I see my team fails? Solo-impact has been so greatly reduced that I'd rather afk and wait until the surrender vote. Better than dragging out a lost game until minute 45. During that saved time I could start a new game with the chance of less retarded teammates. Usually when I see my team at 20 minutes I can tell wether these guys have a chance or not, and 90% of that time I am right when I say that they are going to lose. And I don't waste my time and energy in a clearly lost game.

Why should I bother to be nice? No one else is either. People should be grateful I don't wish them cancer (like everyone else does here it seems) and insult them normally instead. And no, I am not going to mute anyone. I will try to cause as much psychological damage as I can because these people don't deserve anything better.

To be honest I have seen so much shit in my time in this game that I kinda stopped caring. Oh you kinda are an asshole? Well, too bad, I afk. Go fuck yourself. You whine about flame? Well, if you are 0/6 by 10 minutes you deserve it. Then it is not flame, but a valid evaluation of your skill. And if you skill is equal to that of a braindead retard, well congratulations, that's what you are. You flame me despite me having the way superior stats? Well, congratulations, try winning this without me, fucker.

And everyone else is acceptable collateral damage. I have no friends that play this game anymore, so why should I care about some random people that are affected by this? And I don't have the need to be "moralically superior" either. Mostly because the illusion of "being the better person" means absolutely nothing in the end.

I wonder what's different than the other seasons tho. I mean, I have no bans or restrictions right now and I never had any (apart from that one day where the system went kinda haywire and gave everyone restrictions, but even then the number was super low as compared to actually toxic people), but just looking back I see a clear difference to this and earlier seasons. Another possibility would be me having changed since then, but I am still the same nihilistic douchebag that I was since I started this game. But the game has obviously changed, yet the question is: had the changes any effects on player behavior?

Mostly because I'm not only seeing this with me, but also with others. Even when I am not the one causing it, I see way more toxicity in my games than in previous seasons. So maybe it kinda is caused by the gameplay? But I am not exactly sure by what exactly...

This will get downvoted anyways, but ah whatever...

37 Comments

Karunamon4 votes

Why should I even try to impact the game when I see my team fails?

Maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you should go play a different game rather than make excuses for your own bad behavior. You clearly value your own experience more than the 9 other people you queued up with.

DogshítPlayer4 votes

Once you get astrong dose of this community you would value your own well being and state of mind over others as well. Too many times have I just seen things and just scream why... why are you doing this to me.

Karunamon3 votes

You're doing it to yourself - if you're getting that tilted that you can't even stand anyone here anymore, go play another game. There are many of them.

Or if you must play, /mute all

You are responsible for your own behavior at the end of the day.

Muted Summoner1 votes

{quoted}

You're doing it to yourself - if you're getting that tilted that you can't even stand anyone here anymore, go play another game. There are many of them.

Or if you must play, /mute all

You are responsible for your own behavior at the end of the day.

/mute all will not prevent teammates from being bad or performing bad.

DogshítPlayer3 votes

Your ignoring the point its not about talking to people for starters no wher did i say anything about chatting with this cancerous community. 2nd of all why should I stop playing because someone wants to go feed or not ward and get ganked constantly and bitch and moan? Like the original poster said you just hit a point of not giving a fuck.. and it changes ya THE GAME ITSELF IS FUN AF league is an amazing game but the people.. man the people...

Karunamon2 votes

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2nd of all why should I stop playing because someone wants to go feed or not ward and get ganked constantly and bitch and moan?

That's the thing about this wonderful, accursed game. The highs bring you higher than the pope, the lows are like being in hell for a while. There is nothing, absolutely nothing anywhere in any video game that matches the feeling of being on a good team and kicking ass against another team that you know is giving it everything they have. I truly believe this.

Similarly, there is nothing worse than playing a doomed game you know is lost because your team isn't a team, it's 5 people at each other's throats, and they all keep rejecting /ff, so you're stuck dealing with it until the inevitable nexus explosion.

It takes a near zen-like level of patience and understanding and putting the other before the you to put up with the bad times, but at the end of the day, that is the only thing that works, because literally anything less winds up in that bad end for everyone else.

This isn't a game for everyone - if you carry on in this not giving a fuck mode, you will do two things:

  1. You will ruin the games of countless other people who just want to have fun like you do
  2. You will eventually get the hammer dropped on you, lose all your progress, all your champions, skins, friends list, and so on.

If you truly don't think you can manage it, I say it again: go play something else. At the end of the day dude, this all comes down to your own self control - the community being what it is, that's almost more important than how you land skill shots in rift or what your build is.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

if this game was not for me I would not have played it for more than six years, racking up thousands and thousands of games in the progress...

And your "Zen like level of patience and understanding" ain't giving you shit. What does it matter if I understand toxic assholes? What satification is there in just muting all those assholes? And if i ruin the game for all of them, so be it. Either I ruin theirs, or they ruin mine, and if I'm at the recieving end I'll make goddamn sure I'm not going down without a fight.

This is the perfect example of "I am better than everyone else because I act like such a good person". No you are not. You are just the one everyone else willt rample over because you're not even trying. Self-control is not giving you anything if you use it for that. The only thing self-control is good at is not giving in to blind range and thinking about how you cna psychlogically wound someone as hard as possible. Everything else is pretending everything is fine and dandy by "being the better person", but that's a coward's delusion, nothing more.

And what am I going to lose? if I woudl truly reach a toxicity level high enough for a ban... well... remember the Tyler1 case? This is not gonna happen anyways but if it does... you can literally buy yourself free with some Rp for champs and exp boosts, and start noob-stomping in bronze until you get back to your old level. Not much of a problem.

Karunamon1 votes

Hey buddy, it's your account, I'm just telling you how it is. However you act from here out is between you and Riot, because you clearly don't care about the other "assholes".

Xidphel2 votes

Then leave.

SaltyToplaneGoat4 votes

Very constructive commentary, I am truly amazed. No really, truly.

Just go fuck yourself ;) That's all your comment makes me think ^^

Itankyou3 votes

tell it like it is man, upvoted

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Thanks bro [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Telephone Booth1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ysoE1nll,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-04T23:18:43.202+0000)

if this game was not for me I would not have played it for more than six years, racking up thousands and thousands of games in the progress...

And your "Zen like level of patience and understanding" ain't giving you shit. What does it matter if I understand toxic assholes? What satification is there in just muting all those assholes? And if i ruin the game for all of them, so be it. Either I ruin theirs, or they ruin mine, and if I'm at the recieving end I'll make goddamn sure I'm not going down without a fight.

This is the perfect example of "I am better than everyone else because I act like such a good person". No you are not. You are just the one everyone else willt rample over because you're not even trying. Self-control is not giving you anything if you use it for that. The only thing self-control is good at is not giving in to blind range and thinking about how you cna psychlogically wound someone as hard as possible. Everything else is pretending everything is fine and dandy by "being the better person", but that's a coward's delusion, nothing more.

And what am I going to lose? if I woudl truly reach a toxicity level high enough for a ban... well... remember the Tyler1 case? This is not gonna happen anyways but if it does... you can literally buy yourself free with some Rp for champs and exp boosts, and start noob-stomping in bronze until you get back to your old level. Not much of a problem.

To not get banned. That's the only reason for a lot of people. If you don't care about getting banned, go ahead, be an asshole. Some people have more spiritual reasons, like at the end of their life they'll be able to look back and know that they didn't cause misery or pain on anyone. They didn't try to hurt anyone for their own gain. Some think "God" will evaluate their life and if they're toxic, God will see that they have hatred in their heart and they won't be accepted into heaven. Some people just have a lot of empathy and try to live by the golden rule and raging at strangers on the Internet is like throwing your integrity out the window just cuz you had no control over your emotions. I know I'm getting pretty deep here lol. There are lots of personal reasons for people to be nice and not rage over a video game or insult people and cause "psychological damage". It's a personal choice, go ahead and make yours. Whatever you choose, own it. Which you are, so good job.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

God doesn't exist. And now? I still want those fuckers to suffer. So I will make sure of that. If a man wants something he gotta do it himself.

Generally, clining to an imaginary friend that will eventually will get the job done is nothing but justying your own incompetence to set things right. It's a result of weakness, cowardice, and tardyness - pretty much all despicable parts of human existence.

Telephone Booth1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ysoE1nll,comment-id=00000000000000010000000000020000,timestamp=2016-09-07T21:50:44.899+0000)

God doesn't exist. And now? I still want those fuckers to suffer. So I will make sure of that. If a man wants something he gotta do it himself.

Generally, clining to an imaginary friend that will eventually will get the job done is nothing but justying your own incompetence to set things right. It's a result of weakness, cowardice, and tardyness - pretty much all despicable parts of human existence.

Right I don't put any faith into a God either, idk whether one exists or not, I can't know. I was just answering your question as to why people would be nice. These are reasons that people use. I use the golden rule just because I made that decision at a young age and I've always gone by it just because it seems right. I try to think; if everyone did this, would the world be a better place? Then that's how I live. If everyone talked shit to eachother and only thought about what's best to themselves, it'd be a frightening world to live in. That's just my choice. Like I said, you made yours and you don't hide it and you believe it's right, so good for you. I'm not judging, just was answering your (probably hypothetical) question.

Gary B Enkelis3 votes

{quoted}

That's the thing about this wonderful, accursed game. The highs bring you higher than the pope, the lows are like being in hell for a while. There is nothing, absolutely nothing anywhere in any video game that matches the feeling of being on a good team and kicking ass against another team that you know is giving it everything they have. I truly believe this.

Similarly, there is nothing worse than playing a doomed game you know is lost because your team isn't a team, it's 5 people at each other's throats, and they all keep rejecting /ff, so you're stuck dealing with it until the inevitable nexus explosion.

Treat others how you want to be treated. If you can't handle getting your butt whooped and always want to be the one whooping butt then ... it's silly ... and probably along the lines of poor sportsmanship to act out when you taste your own medicine. Defeat happens to you just like you make defeat happen for others. Life. Balance. I dunno.

GarenTopOrElse2 votes

I play this TO TILT other players. Players just like you. And if i cant tilt you as long as i get you to lose the game. Its ok for me. That is the REASON i play. Its actually quite enjoyable to me.

Muted Summoner3 votes

Couple seasons ago when I was silver trying to climb into gold I felt suicidal. Eventually after being in such dark depression and hitting gold. I somehow stopped caring and took a break then came back not giving a shit and ended up in plat. I think you are on the right road to climb into plat (not the suicidal part). Stop caring. Stop caring as if every game matter like it was some big deal. It will improve your attitude, your life and your rank games. If you get so angry it will cloud your judgments and your play pattern. Just stop caring about rank.

The more you care when you lose the harder it will affect you negatively.

Itankyou3 votes

I agree with OP 100%.

IF I play Draven and my support ks's me, tells me I'm garbage and do no damage, take my cs, flame me while sitting under tower using no abilities then ya i'm afk if my opponent is a half decent player. Also people call me tyler 1 every game but I don't say toxic shit like he does in chat. I just get flammed for being tyler 1 regardless.

It's true if you don't go like 8-2 atleast then the game is kinda hopeless in solo que because there is 0 co-ordination, your teams jungler doesn't ward doesn't gank other lanes (i prefer my jungler to never come to my lane because I know I can handle it) or ganks lanes that are losing and just adds to the feed.

Ofcourse after all this happens I'M the one who is told is the problem and to get cancer kys etc. etc. beta cuck yadayada. This game is toxic af and my reports mean nothing anymore because I report atleast once per game (maybe I should stop for a while so that I can actually get people banned).

I prefer to lose at 20 mins than to win a game at the 60 min mark. I can play and win 3 more games in that amount of time. Normally in the situation where I MAYBE COULD MIGHT win in a 60 min game, the players on my team are an entire division lower than the enemy team. These long games aren't worth the hassle and effort required of carrying them.

Also OP if it makes u feel better I get flamed even when I don't type. This community is garbage. I just stopped caring what people say and I have fun when I win and lose now. I know where my mistakes are and when I get flamed for them, I just give up in that particular game.

Also also, I climb elo when I do this. More games played = more elo. 60 minute games are pointless to play until diamond/high plat

71883083DEL14 votes

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I agree with OP 100%.

IF I play Draven and my support ks's me, tells me I'm garbage and do no damage, take my cs, flame me while sitting under tower using no abilities then ya i'm afk if my opponent is a half decent player. Also people call me tyler 1 every game but I don't say toxic shit like he does in chat. I just get flammed for being tyler 1 regardless.

It's true if you don't go like 8-2 atleast then the game is kinda hopeless in solo que because there is 0 co-ordination, your teams jungler doesn't ward doesn't gank other lanes (i prefer my jungler to never come to my lane because I know I can handle it) or ganks lanes that are losing and just adds to the feed.

Ofcourse after all this happens I'M the one who is told is the problem and to get cancer kys etc. etc. beta cuck yadayada. This game is toxic af and my reports mean nothing anymore because I report atleast once per game (maybe I should stop for a while so that I can actually get people banned).

I prefer to lose at 20 mins than to win a game at the 60 min mark. I can play and win 3 more games in that amount of time. Normally in the situation where I MAYBE COULD MIGHT win in a 60 min game, the players on my team are an entire division lower than the enemy team. These long games aren't worth the hassle and effort required of carrying them.

Also OP if it makes u feel better I get flamed even when I don't type. This community is garbage. I just stopped caring what people say and I have fun when I win and lose now. I know where my mistakes are and when I get flamed for them, I just give up in that particular game.

Also also, I climb elo when I do this. More games played = more elo. 60 minute games are pointless to play until diamond/high plat

hehe xd Draven

Itankyou2 votes

ayy bigbrother we havin a bon fire tonight

Morality Coach3 votes

I was with you for a little bit until you understated the benefits of cultivating a superior morality.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

The benfits are an illusion people use to retain mental stability. Once you are aware of that, it kinda falls apart.

Blast Deadlift1 votes

Lul morality coach

balbraaksel3 votes

Such a poor attitude alone costs you games, that 90% statistic you made up that your team would lose if you think they would is probably for 40% or more because you started playing worse, also stopping to think what you could do to adapt and maybe win the game. Maybe you even would try to speed up the loss, it's become quite more common for that to happen.

I do get what you mean though about being in Gold and that there's not really a reason to climb further, I agree ranked integrity is currently a total mess. Borders will become meaningless because of DQ.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Kid, listen up. I have played probably above 10k rounds of this game. I know a bunch of skilless failures when I see them. I see how they play, I see how they position themselves in fights, I see their reactions to ingame events, I see how they ward, how they communicate, and even more. I can see something similiar on the enemy team too of course.

Then all that is left are a few calculations to what champions are picked, who snowballs how hard, who has to peel whom and how our options with that are to figure out if this team has a chance or not. And yes, 90% is pretty accurate. A year ago I wouldn't have gone as far and say 90%, but now I am sure of it after so many games where I had to see the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again.

And usually I am quite optimistic with my estimations, but if I say they're gonna lose they are going to lose.

balbraaksel4 votes

You can't even reply as an adult by saying kid to me while nothing I said can be interpret as something a kid would say, displaying your toxic personality enforcing my suspicion on how you are with your estimations that you (sub)consciously assist in happening. That's funny, besides, I'm probably older than you. Thanks for the laugh :)

Blast Deadlift1 votes

Lul

Princess Íncest1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ysoE1nll,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-09-05T03:27:05.676+0000)

Kid, listen up. I have played probably above 10k rounds of this game. I know a bunch of skilless failures when I see them. I see how they play, I see how they position themselves in fights, I see their reactions to ingame events, I see how they ward, how they communicate, and even more. I can see something similiar on the enemy team too of course.

Then all that is left are a few calculations to what champions are picked, who snowballs how hard, who has to peel whom and how our options with that are to figure out if this team has a chance or not. And yes, 90% is pretty accurate. A year ago I wouldn't have gone as far and say 90%, but now I am sure of it after so many games where I had to see the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again.

And usually I am quite optimistic with my estimations, but if I say they're gonna lose they are going to lose.

"EUW"

explains everything.

GarenTopOrElse2 votes

If you looked at season 3 and ESPICALLY seaons 1. This game is not even the same game. The difference in player skill/attitude has no comparison. I mean i played HUNDREDS of ranked games in seasons 1-3 and i would get a toxic or bad player every other game. Either on my team or the other. But this season there are toxic players in EVERY game i play. i mean literally almost 90% of my games are toxic players. At LEAST one. This game has gone to shit and its mostly due to the FORCED gameplay that you CANNOT win based of individual skill alone.

ZUltimateWarrior1 votes

its strange how a 25 acc lvl players talks about season 3

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

I assume that this is a) a smurf account, or b) an NA account someone created from outside NA to play with his friends there. I have one like that too, it's also not level 30 yet. I only have it for my NA people I met online during my fanfiction/RP days on tumblr.

And I can assume that back then toxicity was lower in terms of frequency. All time-low during the introduction of the honor system, but that was one surreal short timeframe when suddenly EVERYONE was nice. It was soo weird. Pleasant, yet disturbing somehow.

ZUltimateWarrior1 votes

I bet he created this acc Because his main is banned for toxic as rito believes

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Also possible, yet nto much different from it being a smurf.

Also he indeed has a point, even if he is a potential toxic.

Blast Deadlift1 votes

Lul

Ward Baron1 votes

Make this game better again, -solo que -revert season 4 CC changes so they don't stack -remove timers, remove free wards, so players that do track/buy wards have an advantage again over ones who don't It's turned into CC/burst death match, there used to be more options for a skill you had over your opponent

If you "rework" a champion and it doesn't do what it did before that's isn't a rework it's a new champion. Nobody can invest and main a champion, you are forced to play what is top tier. Yasuo came out and everything after him has been some overloaded champion kit that ensures it's impossible for them to fix this mess.

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