Climbing out of Bronze: A Message to Bronze Players from a failed Division 1 athlete.

SlySal4·5/7/2017, 6:47:27 AM·21 votes·2,249 views

Hi, My name is Sly, and I'm 6'4 and currently attend UC Davis ;). I picked up League around the middle of my college years, around August 2016 to be exact. I was currently in the midst of transferring schools. All summer I had been training to become a Division 1 athlete(My sport was water-polo). I had played water-polo for nearly 6 years at the time, and was looking to make it 7. Division 1 water polo is one of the highest levels of water-polo in the nation. In water-polo, there is no NBA, NFL, MLB or NHL for the sport, its not popular enough. Making the Division 1 level is the equivalent of being in Master Tier in League, because the next step after that is the Olympic National team. Excited to play at such a high level, I was ready to go in at peak shape. I had been lightly recruited and my best offer to a school was "preferred walk on". Excited to take a chance, one week before I head out to the new school, I had been messaged on Facebook that my chance to be on the team was revokeditem 3070 . With a month before my new school started, I decided to pass the time playing League of Legends. A couple of my buddies got me back into it and I figured why not. Hearing of pro players making thousands of dollars off this game, I thought to myself, how hard can it be? I quickly finished my account which was at level 24, to lvl 30. Bought the cheapest IP champs to get to the 16 character minimum needed to play ranked, and started the climb.

    My climb began at Silver 3. My goal? end the season in Gold. Without watching any videos on how to climb, I inherently knew, just like in sports, I needed to be skillful in a certain role. I decided to take up the jg and became a One Trick Pony with ![Warwick](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Warwick.png) . Leveling my account to 30, all I did was play Warwick. Mastering Warwick(WW) was simple, clear camps until you hit level 6, gank a lane when your ulti was up. But, after some ranked games. Many players weren't fond of WW at the time. Some players saw him as a low impact afk farm champ. This is back when his ult was a point-and-click and ganks weren't very effective pre-6. My winrate wasn't very high with ww, and I had demoted to Silver 5. I never found myself carrying came with him, and decided I needed a new role. I didn't give up, I just tried again. Tried something new. Sometimes, you and a champ just don't mix together, for any number of reasons. Sometimes, you just need to find a new champ. Weather you are looking to become a One Trick Pony, or figuring out your champ roster, some champs aren't for you. 

A champ did appeal to me. Me being a fish myself, I bought a new champion and decided to try him out,Fizz . Being new to the game, I simply chose fizz because I liked his look. Me being a polo player, I liked any character that had to do with water. Thing was, I was lacking something. I had never laned before in my time playing league. Rarely did I lane in league, I had pretty much played warwick from level 1 to level 30. Taking fizz into ranked would be a terrible idea. I took him into normals and oh boy, did I have a lot to learn. Not only could I not CS, I didn't understand things like trading, freezing waves, and had zero map awareness. It's like I was playing a whole different game. Even after about 25 games with him, I couldn't stop feeding. I was playing in silver level elo, where the average player dwells in league. Playing a role I had never played before, I was getting stomped. I had neglected myself the skills of understanding the mid lane by only playing warwick with my lvl 1 account all the way to level 30. Take some notes from this: never take a new champ and take him into ranked, play some normal's before playing any champion in ranked, and understand all components of each lane before entering ranked. Not only was I a bad jg, I was a bad mid laner as well. I had been neglected learning mid lane leveling up my account. And now that I was playing with silver players due my one tricking warwick, I couldn't learn mid lane effectively. I was just getting stomped every game. Its like in sports, when you play a team that's significantly better than you, you hardly learn anything. There are so many mistakes, you don't even know where to begin. You don't even know what you don't know. So if you are in bronze elo, you have the foundation for finding your champ, your lane, and become competent with it. Being in a silver or gold elo, and deciding to play a new champ/ lane, when you've only played a certain lane the entire time, will only cause you to be stomped. No matter what lane it is. If you are in bronze, don't get down, understand that you are in the right position to really learn the skills you need to learn in the lane you want to main. But also at least have a firm grasp on each lanes role before you enter the ranked scene.

With my weak skills, I ended the season at Silver 5, 0 lp. The next season, I came to a shocking statement, I had been placed in the depths of BRONZE 5item 3070 . What a blow to my goal. From being placed so close to gold, now so far away. I thought, "This has to be a mistake." But, instead of rage quitting and blaming my teammates for losing games, I saw a wonderful video by the YouTube name of FoxDrop. His statement that "Your teammates are the same elo as you" really hit the spot. To say that your teammates are terrible, is the equivalent of saying YOU are terrible. I found this humbling. And humbleness is the first step. The first step to any problem, is admitting there is one.

Humbled by foxdrops video, I starting THINKING the game. This game is a strategy game. As fun as it is to ram champions together all the time, If you really want to win, this game takes strategy. That's why you consistently see top streamers like REDMERCY talk about taking breaks when on tilt. It's because when emotions get the best of you, you start making irrational decisions. You really need to sitdown and really think the game. A good place to start is when you die, think why did you die? Did you overextend? Did you engage an all-in fight when you didn't know where the jg is? Did you chase a player too far and got caught? There are many reasons you died, try to learn from these and you'll learn to start outplaying other summoners. Don't just play mindlessly, really THINK the game.

Bronze players need to understand that summoners rift is not about getting kills, its about objectives. Even in silver, the macro game is nonexistent. You see adc's roaming aimlessly by them selves, top laners farming top lane for 40 min, and players playing for kills and not objectives. Kills are a way to gain objectives faster, but after you become proficient in the laning phase, start thinking about the macro game.

As an athlete, I had played water-polo at the college level. I played ju-co, which would probly be the equivalent of Gold-Plat range if I were to compare league to water-polo. Since I was lightly recruited at the Division 1 level, I would say I was a Diamond tier water-polo player. But, keep in mind, I had been playing water-polo for 6 years. Many top streamers you see have been playing league since season 1. They have a ton of experience and have grinded their way to the top. imaqtpie and doublelift for example, have been playing since season 1. These players have mastered the game. Their skills are the best in NA, especially the bot lane. Understand it's going to take time to reach your goal. Weather its making the silver league, gold or climbing to rank 1. Don't feel pressure to climb as fast as you can, just get better at the game, day by day, and the LP will come. League system does a good job of placing us where our skills are, so don't blame the system and understand its going to take time to reach your goal.

AFK's and trolls will come. They will be in your games and I guarantee it will cost you lp. But guess what? Some bronze players fail to mention that it happens to their enemies as well. AFK's and Trolls are part of the climb experience. Every league player has to go through this. Don't get caught in that trap. You will get trolls, your enemy will get trolls. Just learn to ignore these and move on with your climb. Don't let these trolls keep you in constant tilt. These trolls are sadistic players that will only find joy to find you typing away trying to insult them. You can't insult someone who doesn't care. Don't feed the trolls but ignore them, and understand all players go through this.

After 9 months of playing league, I had the skills to get back into mid tier silver elo. It took 230 ranked games, but I learned nonetheless. I wouldn't consider myself a fast learner, so maybe some of you can reach silver in less amount of games. I don't consider myself great at the game. According to op.gg, I'm literally in the 50th percentile. I'm literally the average player. Understand the numbers when you set your goal. Making gold 5 is the equivalent of being in the 25th percentile, meaning your better than 75 percent of players in NA. Making it to silver? Silver is from the 65 percentile to the 25th. That's such a huge player base. I truly believe, that if you want to get out of Bronze, anybody can. Think like an athlete. Don't rely on your emotions in the game, or just mindlessly play. But learn to hone your skills in the laning phase. Learn to really master a champion or champions. Find the lane you are most talented in. Humble yourself. THINK the game. Understand its a strategy game and not a death match. and don't blame rito on its system, the ranked system is fine. These tips will help you on your climb. I truly hope this helps a few souls out there, and goodluck on your climb. God bless.

SLYSAL4 [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

ps- I do not row for UC DAVIS. Although I was recruited by them when they saw I was 6'4. :)

28 Comments

Troll Armada5/7/2017, 7:28:55 AM16 votes

I'm curious, while in the middle of a water polo match, do players from your own team, all of a sudden drop what they are doing and complain out loud in the middle of the game about how much you suck and how it's impossible to win a match with a [insert expletive here] like you on the team?

Also, do players just all of a sudden go POOF! in the middle of a match from your team, for the rest of game, and are not replaced?

Do random groups of people from both your own team and the enemy team, all of a sudden begin intentionally not rowing or catching the water polo ball, and if you ask them why, they tell you that it's your own fault because you have a mole on your upper back or (insert random reason here)

Naturally, none of this happens in a real sport.... when none of this happens in League, come back to me and I won't seem like a total a-hole.

I upvoted you because, well, you clearly poured your heart out and are sincere and .... I want to believe.

Vectros5/7/2017, 7:33:50 PM5 votes

I agree with everything except....

League system does a good job of placing us where our skills are, so don't blame the system and understand its going to take time to reach your goal.

I have a friend that is around my skill level-in some roles outright better, others I'm ahead of him. Currently I'm Gold 5 (I don't really do a lot of ranked so it's a slow climb). My MMR seems to be mid-high gold, based on the players I go with in ranked usually being gold 3-plat 4, and in most cases I hold my own in these games (though I've definitely had bad games too).

He was previously Gold 3 playing mid lane, and plat 5 while playing support a couple seasons back.

he was placed Bronze 3 this season. He smokes just about every single game-but can't say the same for his team. He's now Silver 1.

And you think it places us where we belong? Unlike real life, where your potential as an athlete can be scouted out by the right person and go from a nobody to a pro in a short time frame, League doesn't really allow for this-unless it initially thought you were really good. it's going to be a slow climb to your appropriate skill level-instead of putting you near where you actually should be, many get placed well under it.

There's other elements not present in sports, like AFK's, int feeders, etc. On your water polo team, I imagine you can rely on everybody, or just about everybody, to do their absolute best. You'll have a team that is willing to work together and wants to win, that doesn't give up. League just doesn't have this.

ActivatingEMP5/8/2017, 2:36:25 AM3 votes

I was lucky as fuck and never had to experience trolls and afks in bronze (maybe twice?) It seems like i was mostly lucky to have left bronze, rather than it actually being because of me. I feel bad for the people in bronze that might actually be good but havent played enough games to equalize out these unfortunate parts of the climb

ModKnightsKemplar5/7/2017, 6:07:06 PM3 votes

Good points. While you have one dissenting opinion already with some decent points, I take your overall message at its face value. You can only control yourself.

I made it from silver 4 to plat 2 already this season (I finished gold 5 last season, I think), and I can tell you you're absolutely right. Both teams get trolls, and you can only control your own play. I got focused, and I climbed. Good luck to you on the path to mastery!

Sidenote: sorry about your water polo experience. That's a bummer.

Rakvir5/7/2017, 10:30:00 PM3 votes

An honest question: what do you suggest one does when they have tanked their MMR?

Due to early "career mistakes" like thinking I had a solid grasp of the game and going into ranked years before I was ready, not being able to adjust to the relatively fast-paced meta changes which are oh-so-fickle to suit the pace it evolves at, and letting myself succumb to undesirable behaviour at times which is only self-destructive, I am stuck in a bad spot, one that I feel I should start a new account on just to have a normalized MMR account to account for what I've learned.

As it stands, I pretty much only get grouped with people who are either mind-bogglingly new at the game or have absolutely NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to learn and become better until the win-loss ratio gets too particularly lop-sided and I'm carried by smurfs of the highest caliber, meaning I am not actually learning and only barely making even. Basically, according to the system with the poor series of events from years of snowballed mistakes early on in my time playing this game, I am SUPPOSED to never stray far off from Bronze V, 0 LP.

If I win-streak, I am put with MULTIPLE people who are on 10+ lose streaks game vs a team full of people on win streaks game after game after game until I "normalize" back into Bronze V and lose twice as much LP as I gain.

I know as someone will inevitably say that is bull and that I deserve my place but I truly feel that I am one of the rare outliers on the variable scale and if I did have another level 30 account with a reliable, flexible champion/rune pool, I would actually consistently get people who want to improve without having to rely on take advantage of enemy troll/afk'ers or same-team smurfs to win. Not this "I could not possibly care less about the consequences of not doing my best even though it's ranked" I see almost every single game, be it my side or the enemy's.

Even if I lose, if I can consistently chalk those up to something which were not one-sided stomps, I'd be happy. As it is, it is exceptionally difficult to have faith and not be on tilt before I even load the client up because of seeing this pattern on such a recurring basis. I know I play badly a lot. I don't deserve gold or higher yet, maybe ever, though it would be a nice goal to shoot for within the next few years if I could.

But when I recognize that I either have to prance around and pray I don't step on anyone's toes or just have to waste my time on a game where the people I'm with think this game is CoD and it's just a death match with no objectives so I am encouraged to join in utter stupidity just to kill the time before a series of surrender votes that will always be veto'd every single game even if we never took a single tower and they're beating on our inhibitors with a fully-stacked elder dragon buff, coupled with baron, plus several minion waves and 3 people decide it's better to chase into jungle then decide halfway to farm wolves...I honestly think I'm going full-blown insane at the BEST of times!

Btw, I have tried duo'ing before but since I have no reliable partner (none of my IRL friends play LoL, either), it's not even a remotely reasonable possibility. It works for a few games but then schedules conflict and it becomes too big a hassle if you don't know, FOR SURE, you can rely on someone, or even a pool of people to draw from.

TL;DR: I know I'm bad but I made stupid mistakes which cost me hundreds upon hundreds of points of MMR and let myself get sucked into bad habits of lashing out which worsened my position and now that I know as much as I do now, 5 (6?) years down the line, it's too late because the system thinks I am mentally-handicapped and should only play at Beginner Bot levels. I am Lint V, 0 LP, apparently....?

Faneseeker5/8/2017, 12:05:01 AM2 votes

It is all about your luck.

Dukues5/8/2017, 3:10:30 PM2 votes

Why so long?

Just so you and others know.... those percentages change basically weekly. Like... right now gold 5 might be top 25%. But by end of the season it usually close to top 40%. Same with plat 5 usually around top 10 % but I think right now it's around 6-7 percent. Mainly because how riot resets ranks and the year worth of climbing. So being silver 3 today is not the same as say silver 3 3-4 months from now. Same with other ranks.

At least you figured this out early so I am sure you will climb far if you want. just realize... its like this every season. I for one am sick of the grind. And one day you will see what I am saying. Say you hit your goal rank... your pumped now you playing some competitive games and testing your skills. Then next day rank resets and you drop back to around where you started this season. Now you know your skill is around X level... but your over a tier lower than X rank. Now you can suck it up and just climb back, like most people do. But then the next season the same thing happens. And the next, and the next. One day you realize "hey... I don't really give a damn about climbing I just want to play games with people my rank". Well playing your placements fucks you because you drop in rank. So you either play ranked and drop and start the grind over. Or you play normal and are miserable because norms suck. So then you have to quit playing. Then one day maybe you play again and this kid you used to play with his the same rank you used to be. But turns out... they not really that great at the game...they just waited until a couple months left of season and got placed there. Even with a not very impressive placement record. You think "well wtf.. to get there I would have had to play hundreds of ranked games. But they just got placed there because they waited for placements and got lucky? WOW this ranked system makes so much sense!".

Basically. Cool you figuring out how to climb. Just don't waste too much of your life worrying about your rank. Since unless you going pro its all meaningless and no matter your rank you can get stomped or stomp anyone any game if you play the game right and have the better teammates.

Zelorxon5/8/2017, 3:49:15 PM1 votes

Do you row it down mid?

ModWuks5/9/2017, 12:05:49 PM1 votes

It's always nice to see a fellow Aggie on the Boards :) Stop by one of our LANs sometime!