Riot: Why can't you stop scripters?

JesusL0VESyou··2 votes·1,319 views

t's 2000 and freaking 16. Cant you make it so players can only input commands with physical keyboard and mouse? Cant you block DLL hooks into your app? Or do you make too much money from banning scripters who then have to make a new account and probably buy RP to establish a viable account again?

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Awkward Couch9 votes

It's 2k16 why is there still crime in the world? Why can't the police just arrest everyone who has committed a crime?

Z Statistic4 votes

Because that'd be racist obviously.

It's 2016. Enforcement of law and order is bigoted and hateful towards minorities.

koreansmurf87513 votes

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koreansmurf87511 votes

insert nazi spider man joke

Cocho6 votes

Whats the difference between your mouse and an app that pretends its a mouse lol

They both just input commands as a controller

BewareTheIdes1 votes

yes it is just input from the user that the server sees nothing more. A mouse is just saying go this many pixels left, right,up or down for the cursor. It could also have problems since not all mice input things the same way or if you are disabled gamer then you might need special ones that don't input in the same way. Scripters are also constantly evolving like hackers do since they are basicallly the same thing but hackers are more malicios and want to actively destroy/steal things. There will always be things Riot has to fix and some times its hard to spot. LOL want a good laugh about riot games look up jason(real name shane duffy) he made a fool out of riot and all he got was parole for his crimes lol. So they got beat by a home school'ed autistic guy so I doubt they can stop scripters instantly when they create new scripts to use. They can ban eventually tho so its not like its a major problem.

Bettnachleger1 votes

What's your point?

BewareTheIdes1 votes

Trying to stop scripters can have unforeseen problems with people that have odd setups if you implement broad solutions. Also since scripters are constantly evolving so they really are hard to deal with and it will always take time to deal with their new scripts. Also Riot doesn't have the best record so it's not surprising it takes awhile for them to deal with certain scripts.

Zaryelle2 votes

Technology and programming have improved a lot over time, it's getting easier and easier to do things like scripts undetected. It's not that it's impossible, but it's pretty difficult for the LoL program identify 'cheats' unless the third party program is directly manipulating the client.

The better technology is, the better the 'hacks' will become, it will probably always be this way.

That being said, IMO, there are some pretty obvious signs, but are only really noticeable if you're in the game with the scripter:

  • Can easily dodge/land skillshots, but is pretty bad at everything else like cs'ing, build, positioning
  • Dodges skillshots in awkward ways, dodging a skillshot but moving toward the direction of the enemy or under turret in the process
  • When it comes to 'chases' in the jg, they are terrible, since a script cannot help them as much there
  • Dodging skillshots when they have no vision

Before anyone comes in and argues this, yes a legitimate player could do all of these, but if they are doing all 4 of these it's probably a scripter.

Dolasaur2 votes

You're playing on a PC (Mac effectively similar in this situation), not some piece of proprietary hardware. All LoL knows is that some system is telling it "the player clicked the mouse" or "the player pressed X". It doesn't matter if it thinks the source is DirectInput, the Windows messaging loop, or the actual hardware driver itself. It has no way to verify that the signal it's receiving is "real" or not, for the most part. They can make it harder, but they can't 100% eliminate it, unless they force you to use some proprietary hardware.

SugrGlidrWifRidr1 votes

pretty sure the app has to be in memory and needs to locate where the mouse cursor is. so it will 'home' at some point. its movements are also vastly different to a mouse movement, unless it was 'recorded' mouse movements. either way, they are usually very predictable and after a few hours they should be instant banned for having used the same exactly movements thousands of times. you also have to realize they must be reading the game somehow to know when your champ dies, otherwise they wouldn't be finding their way back to the lane..........that alone means it should be super easy to find the scripts/bots........

don't for a second think riot couldn't have fixed all these scripts and bots, years ago, they just don't want to because the truth is, nobody plays this game anymore. bots make it look like they do.

Kei1431 votes

well, they'll fix the 2016 programs, and scripters will jsut come up with 2017 scripts.

SugrGlidrWifRidr1 votes

here's another way to look at it, with botters, you always notice how they have 80, or 120 wins? now imagine, how many games would a bot have to play to hit 120 wins???? how many losses does that bot have????????? thousands? millions????????

this isn't a 'riot tried to stop the botters but they too smart' situation, this is more like, riot flat out isn't trying........ffs.......think about how many reports these bots must have gotten, if it was a normal person they would have been banned, but the bots are almost being.......protected.......

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