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A Proposal for player Moderation

CloakAndGrenade·11/23/2017, 11:02:30 PM·4 votes·805 views

So, it is no secret to anyone that perma-banning rarely seems to keep the truly toxic players out of the community, and for the worst eggs of the bunch, there probably isn't a real way to do so. Toxicity in newbie levels is an often debated topic on this section of the forums. For me personally however, I find that the most times that I get heated, or see someone else get heated, is in chat. Some kind of argument, flaming, what have you. I think alot of players who even aren't necessarily toxic on their own, get baited hard by others into having a heated word battle instead of a summoner's rift one. So, why not a permanent chat ban?

And I don't mean a "Chat suspension" type of ban, I mean completely removing the ability to see and send messages to the players in the game, and vice versa. You take away their ability to argue, and the ability for anyone to bait them in chat, I think alot of players would calm down. Sure, people can hit that mute button, but if someone is to the point of being penalized, they aren't going to. Especially if they are the type to try and reason with the person first. (reason and logic generally devolve into mindless bickering pretty quickly in league.)

Toxicity and tilt are like a disease. A player rarely just starts off toxic, they become that way over time. It is something that kind of eats away at you. It drains your Patience, your sympathy, and your ability to focus. It frays away at your sanity until you become the very thing you swore you'd never be. I think for most people, having peace and quiet in their games would set them right, and, with their account still instated, they wouldn't simply create a new account and go run rampant on new players. They may even reform entirely! Of course, the truly toxic ones will resort to running it down mid, but they do that anyway. I think the benefit this would have would outweigh the few bad eggs that would simply find new ways to make the game unfun for everyone involved to compensate for the lack of hugs they received as a child.

36 Comments

xKillamonjarox11/23/2017, 11:14:41 PM4 votes

I agree 110% I was just perma banned on my main account for this very reason It truly makes no sense to permanently ban someone for typing

cussing someone out should not be on the same punishment tier as intentionally feeding / cheating/ and griefing

101Evsey11/24/2017, 7:08:15 AM2 votes

I agree but also disagree. I love the idea of them getting banned from spreading hurtful words. But by doing so at the same time, there is a chance they will just lash out in other ways like feeding.

Words hurt. It is not nice or funny telling someone to kill themselves cause they died etc. It is not funny flaming your friend in chat for being stupid. It is not funny telling people to uninstall the game cause they are shit.

At the same time. I strongly suggest that RIOT gets ACTUAL people to read the chat logs. Bots isn't good enough, you need to get people to do this for a few reasons:

  1. that way actual people can see and experience what their players see and go through.
  2. people are better at telling the difference between a sarcastic message and a threat.
  3. hopefully by getting actual employees of RIOT to experience what their customers (cause us players are their customers) they will hopefully change the ban system to better suit it.

SO MANY TIMES have myself or other people I play with have had to quit games, simply due to how hurtful and threatening other players have been in chat. Do you want to know what happens when you ditch a game due to being bullied and told to kill yourself? You get a 20 MINUTE wait time before you can join games again.

THE PERSON WHO LEAVES DUE TO BULLYING GETS PUNISHED. WHILE THE BULLIES DON'T.

What sucks, even more, is people say "just mute them". That isn't the point. That person you want us to mute is literally bullying and being terrible to their own team-mates. We shouldn't have to mute bullies or ignore bullies, we should be able to play games without stressing about if we are going to get flamed that day.

Why not just quit league if you don't like the people? Because there are so many wonderful people out there! The game is fun! The lores and time and effort put into the creation of each character and backstory is amazing! Why should we have to leave a game due to bullies? (plus some we spend money on this game and don't want our money going to waste due to some people hating)

hopefully, Riot employees will see this message. Because for too long have toxic people dictated this game. If you ban one account, they just make another.

Your honour system and report system are failing.

Please, RIOT do something! Because it is getting to the point where people are starting to leave the game, or sell their accounts to others as we can no longer put up with this.

to wrap this message up: Being a TOXIC player does not make you a BETTER player. :D

archerno111/23/2017, 11:18:56 PM1 votes

IF toxic person cannot display his toxicity using chat, he will just show it through his gameplay. Goal is to remove those people from community. If you reached point of perma ban, you arent welcome here anymore.

Magical Player11/23/2017, 11:33:57 PM1 votes

I mean tell me a valid reason to use hate speech and suggesting self harm to others? Then we start discussing

AJStarhiker11/24/2017, 1:22:55 AM1 votes

They've already tried indefinite chat bans. They gave out bans for varying number of games, adding more games on based changes the player made to their behavior: decreasing with improvement or increasing with worsening behavior.

Some players racked up hundreds and even thousands of games to play off their restrictions. Not only that, they shifted their pattern of harrassment from chat (easy to detect) to gameplay (harder to prove toxicity vs. just a bad game).