Question for those of you who trash talk

e46 Fanatic·Dec 16, 2017·4 votes·2,080 views

I'm talking about those who feel the need to say someone sucks, point this and that out about the player, blah blah blah. I can tell myself all day "duh, because they have self esteem issues, or they're just angry and want to spread anger to others for whatever reason(I have been there-done that, I get it, it's a real thing)" but, I'm no psychologist(though it is my passion) so I would appreciate answers from the little bullies themselves as well as anyone else's opinion.

Please don't be afraid to be honest about it. I already can pretty accurately guess why, considering my own mental issues, but I've never found myself pointlessly calling someone a shitty player and stuff like that. Why do this?

This is not a troll post.

13 Comments

Ozzie StormDec 17, 20173 votes

i am by no means a bully or a bad person and despise trash talking, being toxic...etc. However in incidents where i or another player for example did sth. they weren't obligated to do like giving up their to someone only for the one receiving the favor turning out to be toxic as hell and starts throwing blame and flame while ruining everyones time, or when for example our top refuses to help out our jungler at lvl 1, that's where i snap. Another situation would be when someone is extremely selfish, rude in champion select, also known as "mid or feed" incidents, from that moment i just look down upon said player.

Sir TickleswordDec 16, 20172 votes

League is a highly competitive game. Competition can bring the best and worst in people. Some people that are overly competitive usually have the worst reactions to the smallest things. Good news is those players that bring nothing but negativity and anger eventually get a message saying "we do not want you here."

What I'm saying is you can't argue with someone who is so dense that a game will sway their emotions. It's up to the rest of us to use the tools available to remove any power they percieve to have and get on with our games. That's pretty much what i got. Can't really tell you why players say or do certain things.

MarshbouyDec 16, 20172 votes

Sometimes when I get really tilted I trash talk because a teammate is undoubtedly bringing the team down, or I just can't face the fact that I am the only doing poorly.

I do it to burn off steam and lash out at the person who is bringing our team down, even though I know it does nothing. I try to do it as infrequently as possible and I hit honor level 3 two days ago :)

EvilGrinNolDec 17, 20172 votes

Personally, I think it is either A) It is a psychological tactic to make their opponent get more angry and thus unable to focus or think straight therefor making it easier to beat or outsmart them. B) Their entire, or at aspects of their, day-to-day normal life is so terrible that they feel the need to mock or ridicule strangers they will ever met over something that they are good with in a way to flaunt their minor success and achievement in the grand scheme of things. Or C) They're just an asshole. LOL

Brain Errör 404Dec 17, 20172 votes

Viable strategy to tilt the enemy to further remove any chances of comeback
You're tilted yourself and feel the need to release anger by venting on someone or something no matter how small
Unable to handle the illogical decisions being completed over and over to the point of insanity that some people make
It's a video game. Trash talk is part of what makes gaming fun.

Riling people up is part of the fun for video games. When things get serious where people are calling out mental disorders, telling people to kill themselves etc it reaches a point where it's no longer trash talk, but straight up toxicity.

"You'll never be good enough to beat me." "I am the best" "Get good, then we'll talk" "SIT DOWN"

etc are examples of trash talking. It's in good fun and I find people who take more offense to lines like that have more emotional gaps than people who say it. You're always free to mute.

KevinSpacey999Dec 17, 20173 votes

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Viable strategy to tilt the enemy to further remove any chances of comeback

You're tilted yourself and feel the need to release anger by venting on someone or something no matter how small

Unable to handle the illogical decisions being completed over and over to the point of insanity that some people make

It's a video game. Trash talk is part of what makes gaming fun.

Riling people up is part of the fun for video games. When things get serious where people are calling out mental disorders, telling people to kill themselves etc it reaches a point where it's no longer trash talk, but straight up toxicity.

"You'll never be good enough to beat me." "I am the best" "Get good, then we'll talk" "SIT DOWN"

etc are examples of trash talking. It's in good fun and I find people who take more offense to lines like that have more emotional gaps than people who say it. You're always free to mute.

True, but it is still never right to degrade others and say ur better than them. Not only are u aggravating yourself, u are also fueling the fire cuz more and more ppl will want to chime in. Of course it is still human nature to think that u are the best ect. This is what leads to calling people names

PinappleavengerDec 17, 20172 votes

People say it's just a game but it is also an investment of my time, meaning if they are feeding/inting or trolling i will ask them to stop nicely but they generally respond with something like "WELL IF WE HAD A JUNGLER WHO HAD A BRAIN I WOULDN'T BE FEEDING" then they start trash talking the team so for the record if you are wasting my very valuable time that i decided to spend playing a game i love you bet your *** i'm gonna say something. not even necessarily toxic but just pointers and someone just snaps off my face.[zombie-brand-facepalm]

The SugarliciousDec 17, 20171 votes

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People say it's just a game but it is also an investment of my time, meaning if they are feeding/inting or trolling i will ask them to stop nicely but they generally respond with something like "WELL IF WE HAD A JUNGLER WHO HAD A BRAIN I WOULDN'T BE FEEDING" then they start trash talking the team so for the record if you are wasting my very valuable time that i decided to spend playing a game i love you bet your *** i'm gonna say something. not even necessarily toxic but just pointers and someone just snaps off my face.[zombie-brand-facepalm]

I agree on this as well. Not everybody here is a high school student with plenty of time to waste, some people have jobs,college, family,whatever, and use the little free time they have to enjoy a game or two. So, when somebody consciously makes them lose and waste their time, it's natural for them to get upset. And I keep emphasizing the word consciously because we are not talking about dying cause enemy jungler is focusing you or cause your ping is high or whatever, but repeating mistakes you didn't have to make in the first place. Hope this helps you understand a bit better why it happens.

SomeStarsDec 16, 20171 votes

i only trash talk when 2 requirments are met

1: i must be at least 5/0 2: my enemy laner (or anyone that got tilted by me being fed) is raging

then i tell them they are actual garbage and that emilia is best girl

otherwise if i get fed and my laner is cool i dance with them in the baron pit (not a joke) [katarina-love]

ThiadelDec 17, 20171 votes

Now the question is--do you take the opportunity or are your teammates usually the asshats that take the opportunity?

[sg-lux-2]

The SugarliciousDec 17, 20171 votes

Personally, it has nothing to do with me "being better", but with them being illogical. A few examples:

The most common one - If you have died 3 times from an enemy player, why do you keep running into them, why are you not staying under your own turret and waiting out the laning phase? You are consciously feeding, making the whole team lose, and you expect people to be fine with that? This is the player that is so convinced they are the best, they can't accept the fact that they can't kill somebody so they keep trying and failing.
I played with an adc who kept getting hit by every single Zilean bomb, like seriously,every single one. Not even trying to avoid them. There was no way to support such a player and ofc, it lead to another loss.
Junglers who keep farming monsters for way too long when the rest of the team is getting ganked. Not always flame-worthy but certainly annoying.
Players who consciously pick a champ that doesn't work in their lane. Now, this is subjective cause almost everything can work if you're good at it, but playing support with a champion that literally has no way to support is again consciously making your team lose.
Players who auto-lock and threaten to feed if you don't let them have it their way.
Plus, all of the above-mentioned examples can be fixed/made less serious if the "noob" in question would communicate with their teammates, but in most cases, they either refuse to listen or don't even understand English.

Also, if griefing and feeding are reportable acts, then consciously making your team lose by playing a role you don't know how to play should be as well. There are ways to learn without making your whole team lose.

In short, I would personally never threaten somebody's life or insult somebody's family because that's just childish nonsense. However, if I, you, or anybody else, see somebody purposely being illogical, playing in a way that is definitely leading to a loss, and are the only reason for that loss, then I think it's completely justified to call that person an idiot or tell them they suck. Why? because not saying anything means you're accepting the situation, you're allowing the bad player to bully you by not reacting since again, you can't report them for being bad. And if those simple words offend them so much, then quite honestly, they shouldn't be on the Internet.

ThiadelDec 17, 20171 votes

On the point of learning a new role, sometimes autofill doesn't give you a chance. In which case I've actually had an experience that contributes to the OP's post.

I had jungle on autofill, which I'm perfectly fine trying to learn, but I know a LOT of people get pissed when you don't have Worlds level junglers even in normal. So I told my team "I'm not a good jungler, it would be awesome if I could switch with mid, adc, or support so that I don't bring down the team." We had to switch two other roles on top of jungle, and then the person who took over jungle called me out for making life difficult in champ select and "not even thanking them for switching roles," when I'd been absolutely nothing but polite, thankful, and attempting to be helpful up to that point. I think I dodged out of queue, because seriously, you go out of your way to make sure your team won't lose due to your own shitty understanding of mechanics, and YOU'RE the bad guy. That guy was going to be an issue that I didn't want to play with.

So, tl;dr, sometimes it's just too much of a hassle to trade for a role you know because of asshats like the above example. It's a lose-lose situation.