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I lost my honor 4 months ago. As of today, 100+ normals later, I sit at honor 0, 0/3.

bottlerockett·1/16/2018, 10:31:34 AM·3 votes·2,476 views
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There was a post that recently reached the front of the r/lol, claiming that it took them 209 games to reach honor 2 from honor 0. I was punished in September of 2017 for toxicity. I have played probably 90-100 normal matches since my honor dropped, and as of today with no further punishments I stand at 0/3 checkpoints at honor level 0.

I don't have enough time to dedicate to this game to play another 200 games before the season ends. It wasn't enough that I lost seasonal rewards, so I have to completely miss out on the honor system rewards for the NEXT season as well? I stepped back from the game, and changed my behavior. But because I don't have time to play 300+ games, I have to completely sit out on the honor rewards until S9?

I just think it's a bit extreme to hand out punishments, take away ranked rewards, drop honor level to 0, take away ALL honor rewards, and then tell someone to go play 200 games to get back to normal. I was so excited when they announced that honor would reset, and it was soulcrushing to see that I wasn't even eligible to reset AND that I've essentially made NO progress to returning to the standard honor level. I don't have time to set aside to play 200 more games just to get back to standard honor. This should have reset everyone back to 2, as long as they weren't punished during preseason.

27 Comments

deathgod51/16/2018, 12:00:17 PM7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nAuOABgc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-12-18T19:16:10.031+0000)

I looked at your account, and you have a lot of unsportsmanlike games that just weren't severe enough to warrant a penalty. You actually have to be sportsmanlike .. or at the very least not unsportsmanlike, to progress through the system.

One pattern I noticed is that you constantly harass people on your team with negative scores, and accuse them of 'initing'. It's a pretty consistent behavior.

I can't argue if this is the case for you, but it is one possible explanation. I will also say, that if you want a lot of honour get your first wins in co op while playing support to somebody else, you will almost always get at least one honour from that.

OnlyYouCanHearMe1/16/2018, 11:58:10 AM3 votes

It isn't about a set number of matches. Just because it took that player 209 matches, does NOT mean that it will take every player 200 matches. The greatest determining factor in how long it takes a player to progress through the honor system is whether or not they are continually displaying dishonorable (aka toxic) behavior. If someone is being toxic enough to warrant a report, but not enough to earn a punishment by the IFS, then they won't move up the honor system. Riot Tantram has addressed this a few times in posts to various players recently. Basically, if you've been stuck at Honor level 0 for a while, then you should probably take another look at your chat. Ask yourself this.... are you still being a bit harsh with teammates, passive aggressive, snapping at them, flaming back? If you are, try just muting people at the beginning of the game. Type out a periodic "nice one!" or "gj" to your team, or thank them for ganks/roams/follow up, and then go back to not typing anything. At the end of the match, type "gg" and then move on to the next match. You will move up in Honor level.

realDRdeal1/16/2018, 4:52:52 PM3 votes

cries I did the crime and can't deal with the time more tears. Hmmmm, why does that sound familiar? Oh that's right, its exactly what some real criminals say when they get caught.

Gaxoo1/17/2018, 4:28:35 AM2 votes

Same as you, at Honor 0 for over 6 months. Never been reported once in all that time. I'd complain, but I also know better than to think Riot cares.

Karunamon1/16/2018, 10:43:03 PM1 votes

So there's some confusion here.

Imagine you're at Honor 3. You're mildly toxic every now and then, but never enough to trigger a punishment, and you still get key fragments and GGs every now and then, and you wind up at 4. Then you eventually say something harsh enough to trigger a chat ban, and you're at honor zero.

Those "mildly toxic" incidents that didn't use to count against you? They count now. While it's possible to skirt the line when above 2, below that point you have to be not getting validly reported, otherwise you don't climb.

Mild tox isn't enough to get out of honor 0. No tox is the standard.

Yordanik1/16/2018, 10:34:53 AM1 votes

i have the same pr0bl3m

Livin like Riven1/17/2018, 9:38:12 PM1 votes

I hit honor level 0 as well, and the honor system is actually time-gated, or was back in June, for sure. I'd play only with my friend so I wouldn't get toxic again, and so I'd play say 5-10 games in one day with him for a couple days, then he'd take a break from League. Every day I logged in to see if he was on and he was not, so I logged off. Every time my Honor advanced, I had not played any games in several days. I joked with my friends "Hah, they're saying I'm SO toxic that it's honorable for me to stay out of games so no one has to deal with me.". At any rate, I went from Honor 3 to 0 to 5 within the first month or two of the Honor system, and other than my initial Honor 2 --> 3 promotion, I hadn't played any games. Take into account, though, I was often getting only 2 honors, one from a player, one from my friend(which supposedly is weighted to not count as much) and rarely from another player for 3, never 4, and all I ever said in chat was "gj" or "nice" or "wait for team", and I rarely even said any of that, either, maybe once or twice a day if there was someone particularly good for the compliments or bad enough to go in 3v5 or what have you, so I was not over the top nice, or even really nice at all, and I was getting minimal honors. My level up from level 3-4 I had actually played LESS games than from 2-3, but it was over a longer period of time.

Point is, I simply stopped all toxic behavior, was not rude to anyone except maybe when the JG thanked me for a leash I'd jokingly say "u kno it bitch" if they seemed chill in pregame chat, which may seem toxic if taken the wrong way, I suppose. I didn't even have to play an excessive amount of games, just played somewhat consistently while just not being toxic and getting an honor or two every game.

Akali Prime1/16/2018, 10:36:43 AM1 votes

i dont think you're disqualified from season 8 rewards just because you started the season at honor 0 thatll be ridiculous. i believe they only take you honor level into account the last few months before the season ends to determine whether you get you ranked rewards or not.

The Eden Prøject1/16/2018, 1:26:19 PM1 votes

END OF SEASON REWARDS See that word? End? If you don't END the season with any punishment still lingering then you're fine.

As far as getting reset, good luck with getting that reversed. Just play and play and play some more. If you can't deal with that, make a new account :/ If you stay clean and hit said elo (gold if unchanged) for end of season rewards, you will get them.

As far as number of games needed to be played, there isn't a set amount, it's all about how you behave in game.

To end, if you want to complain about your account and not having enough time before the season ends in 10 months (give or take) and you can't get your honor back by then. Just make a new account.

Sukishoo1/16/2018, 7:29:46 PM1 votes

There's actually no direct amount of games played to make your Honor go up. You just have to play games and not say anything that would be looked at as toxic in them. Best thing to do is the just mute everyone when you get in game because any valid reports can hold the honor progress back (you may not be punished again but it will stop the progress). It will go up after a while from just doing that.

One of my accounts even reached 5, about 2 days before the reset and I hardly even used it.

So just play the game and stay positive and you'll progress from any level even if you're not playing 10-15 games a day.