I'm Sick and Tired of Reforming from the Community, and I am done with it.

Vlada Cut··1 votes·2,833 views

It is pointless, get retricted once, happens to most of us, you learn something and that's to keep your mouth shout at certain words. Get it twice, you start to stress and see you made the same mistake again. Get it thrice, you get stressed so much, that you come to boards to talk about it. That's why I'm here. I'm sick and tired of dealing with toxic people in my every single game, in normals, which I play only, I always have to deal with toxic, ignorrant, childish, immature, manchildren just because of how screwed up my server is. I've tried muting them, disengage convos, reason with them, be kind, and deffend myself when I fealt really endangered by them. NOTHING, but when I say NOTHING, stops them from flaming you further on. I've dealt with thousands, if not, more players who would tell you to go straight kill yourself, flame your parents, family, question your dignity, anything just to make you feel like you're nothing but garbage that belongs in a trash can. I'm sick of it. I get it, ''Just mute them'' they all say, but that doesn't stop the problem, it only hides it from you, and when I realized that I stopped muting people because it didn't help. And out of all those thousands reports, the only times when they were actully successful and penalized were twice, just twice. How's that fair? All that support does is tell you to go screw yourself because they believe in every word their bots say and do, and for what? For this? Sorry but I didn't asign for a bad comedy, I asigned to play and not get toxicified by this game. But apparently, no mater how much you try, it's venom will just go into your veins and turn you just like everyone else. Don't get me wrong, I know that I cross the lines myself, and that's when they suddenly decide to just trainwreck you with punishments and penalities, but why not just make it so the game doesn't FORCE you to cross that line? Address what intoxicates everyone on the first place? No matter how much I tried to cleanse myself, I can't, my heart pumps the venom I've been injected with when I started. Never have I ever, met a kind person, that would just turn you over, and show you they were just like everyone else - tilitng, toxic, unreasonable, apathetic jerks who would just drag you down to you no matter what. Speaking of cleansing myself, I've been dragged to honor 1, then to 0, then I've climbd my way to final checkpoint of lvl 1, lvl 2 was to close to me, that today, I got dragged back to 0. Well guess what? I'm done, I'm not going to even try to get back again, I'm not going to even try to play again. I'm not going to even try what will you guys say down bellow, I won't care what Rioters will say. You messed me and my mind up, just like everyone else. If I am really going to cleanse myself, I am simply going to quit, and never, ever look back. I know, I will not be remembered, I will not be missed, my voice will never be heard, and I will never be taken seriously. Sorry to inform you, but I do not care about you either, not anymore. The only thing that I will miss from this game and the only thing I will remembe, is my Camille, she was always there for me, and she brought enjoyment and excitement when I played with her, but it is time for me to move on. Goodbye my Camille my friend, you will be the only one missed and will always have a spot next to my heart. As for the rest of you, good riddance, and happy growing up.

30 Comments

ModUlanopo8 votes

get retricted once, happens to most of us

Never even come close. Most people don't.

Good luck with your gaming endeavors.

Voldymort7 votes

I've tried muting them,

have you actually clicked on the mute button or have you only threatened to do it, like most people do? because actually muting them stops them from talking to you

disengage convos,

what do you understand by "disengaging"?

reason with them,

you can't reason with people who think they are right and you are wrong by default

be kind,

why did you stop doing that?

and deffend myself when I fealt really endangered by them.

sigh

There's no such thing as self-defence in chat - you're not in danger from people's chat and typing back doesn't protect you from anything. Muting is the actual self-defence.

NOTHING, but when I say NOTHING, stops them from flaming you further on.

you mean except the "mute" button?

''Just mute them'' they all say, but that doesn't stop the problem, it only hides it from you,

but... that's the point. you're supposed to play the game, not engage in meaningless drama about who has the bigger ego.

and when I realized that I stopped muting people because it didn't help.

i don't understand what kind of help you expected

And out of all those thousands reports, the only times when they were actully successful and penalized were twice, just twice. How's that fair?

fyi, you don't always get notified, even if they were punished. it's intentionally designed that way so as to avoid spam

All that support does is tell you to go screw yourself because they believe in every word their bots say and do,

it's because the bot is very rarely proven wrong

Well guess what? I'm done, I'm not going to even try to get back again, I'm not going to even try to play again. I'm not going to even try what will you guys say down bellow, I won't care what Rioters will say. You messed me and my mind up, just like everyone else. If I am really going to cleanse myself, I am simply going to quit, and never, ever look back. I know, I will not be remembered, I will not be missed, my voice will never be heard, and I will never be taken seriously. Sorry to inform you, but I do not care about you either, not anymore.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/73373513/im-leaving-but-first-im-making-a-post-about-leaving-so-everyone-knows.jpg

The only thing that I will miss from this game and the only thing I will remembe, is my Camille , she was always there for me, and she brought enjoyment and excitement when I played with her, but it is time for me to move on. Goodbye my Camille my friend, you will be the only one missed and will always have a spot next to my heart.

tbh i think you stopping from playing is a good thing

As for the rest of you, good riddance, and happy growing up.

[vlad-salute]

Hexshot1 votes

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MOLTinaTOR2 votes

Why? He/she/it made some good points lol

Voldymort4 votes

i identify as a Potato-raptor

so "it" would be fine

Hexshot1 votes

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Voldymort3 votes

Which ones do you see as "trolling"?

Hexshot1 votes

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Voldymort1 votes

what do you understand by "disengaging"?

By that I meant "what is he doing exactly to stop the conversation from continuing?" Because he said that muting isn't working for some reason

obviously, the op already said because it's not solving the problem of those kids flaming him etc

Yeah but being nice isn't supposed to be a "chore"

this is the most retarded one.. the op is CLEARLY meant that those kids don't stop their flaming and you are talking about muting, muting doesn't stop the fingers of those kids.

I'm curious. What do you think "muting" is exactly? Because to "mute" is to prevent you from seeing what they type. You type "/muteall" and it's like you're in a 1v9 bot game.

I don't understand why muting wouldn't solve the problem. Please enlighten me!

Hexshot1 votes

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Voldymort1 votes

I didn't say muting isn't doing what its supposed to but the op is talking about how trying to disengage isn't working with those players

And that is why I asked what exactly is he doing to disengage? Because he didn't say what his way if disengaging IS.

again what you said is completely unrelated, the topic isn't if being nice is a chore or not, its if being nice is working out with those players or not

Wether it's working or not is the ** actual** irrelevant part.

Your job as a player is to play the game.

Your job IS NOT to engage the other players in conversation that is unrelated to the objectives of the game.

Your job is to be nice, play the game, report the toxics and move on to the next game. That is the only thing you have to do!

They're flaming? Let them! Mute... report... move on!

omg, muting HIDES the text not STOPS THE PLAYERS from FLAMING by themselves and that's what i am trying to say this whole time...

You're not supposed to stop them. If they can't stop themselves from doing something that is detrimental to winning the game, that does... not... mean that YOU are supposed to change their perspective.

Your job is to play the game.

Your job is not to play "mommy" to people who lack common sense.

perhaps he is saying why should he mute every game because they are not getting punished and that's the part that I agree with

Because it's not his business wether they get punished or not. Beyond the report, his business in the affair ENDS, as far as riot is concerned

Hexshot1 votes

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MOLTinaTOR1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Voldymort2 votes

so he obviously meant trying to disengaging using words

Yes, but which ones is he using?

Some people use "stop talking, trash" as a means to disengage, which works as well as you'd expect. What does he do, specifically? That is my question.

unless the whole community spammed the report button on them

Fyi, wether you are reported by 1 of the players in the game or 9, there will only be one investigation. The other 8 reports are ** IGNORED**. You can go ahead and check with the mods or any rioter you find. Mob mentality is not a thing!

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=t4BNHARj,comment-id=00030000000000000002,timestamp=2017-05-09T20:27:51.768+0000)

4+ reports is the same as 1.

A report, or 9 reports, flag a game for review.

if (reports > 0) { reviewGame(); }

This is why asking for reports is often seen as toxic behaviour.

You have the full right to at least know if the System/Riot took action on that Player or not

No you don't. There's a reason why the notifications say that "a player you reported" was punished, instead of mentioning a name

Because wether he got punished or not is not something that should concern you. Even if you were to make a ticket, the rioters will never say which one it was. This is why people base their investigation on assumptions based on the op.gg match history.

i saw a post about a week ago in which OP was certain that a ban type punishment happened after only bothering to check wether new games happened in a span of hours just because he got notified by the system. When i came across the post 2 days later and checked opgg , there were several games being played on the account from just a few hours previous.

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

which is rare I get 2 notifications out of every 70 reported flamer

That's because you don't always get notified even if they were punished. It's intentionally setup that way so as to avoid spam

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Hexshot1 votes

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Voldymort1 votes

https://imgur.com/a/gUMf6zQ

notice that comma after "disengage convos"? that one, along with the ones following the other examples makes that phrase into a list of things OP tried out. But it is not defined. it is only stated

example:

"i'm going to the mountains and in preparation, i've been exercising, gathering supplies and saving money for the trip"

notice that i've mentioned "exercising", followed by a comma. that means it's part of a list of things. i at no point said what the "exercising" is. i didn't say if it was pushups, cycling, climbing or all of them and more. i just said "exercising".If you are curious what the exercising consisted of, you have a choice: you can either "assume" what they are or you can ask me what they are.

just like i did for OP

do you understand now?

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/f/5/e/5/3/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.1hl6iv.png/1489525857471.jpg

I am talking about if that player got reported again and again and again then he might actually get a manual review on him.

if a player gets reported again and again and again and they are all valid then yes... he might get a review

however if he gets reported again and again and again and they all are not valid then nothing will happen.

only the valid ones raise questions. the invalid ones are ignored

Hexshot1 votes

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Voldymort1 votes

By replying with things I already know and that i have been pretty obvious about knowing, i get the feeling you like to argue for the sake of arguing. So we're done here.

[sg-ahri-3]

Zombie Gerbil3 votes

You weren't reforming. Can't be tired of something you've haven't done.

Buh-bye

Kei1432 votes

The system punishes based on consistency x severity.

Think of it like a point system and if a player reaches 100 points, they get punished.

It is possible that they start a game with 40 points, be pretty toxic and get 50 points of toxicity. They then go play 10 games without toxicity and go crazy and get punished.

In this circumstance, you won't get to know that they got punished, as the system only gives you a notification if the game showed up in the reform card's and the reform cards only show 1-5 recent games of unacceptable behavior.

In short, the feedback on the system sucks and makes people feel like nothing is done to the toxics, when in fact you just don't know that they got punished.

Azure Hamster2 votes

Most people get restricted? Got any proof of that? I never have been and I've been playing a lot since season 3.

Caitlyn

johnny19w1 votes

Tl;dr

Voldymort1 votes

the picture i posted summs it up quite nicely

Vlada Cut1 votes

@ShadowBehindYou Someone who gets it. Everyone else here is just a brainwashed weaboo. Everyone else either didn't even try to read the post till the end or are just making fun out you. @Voldymort People like yourself are the reason why I quit. Your being so sarcastic and deluded that makes me cringe every time. But fine, ego is what brings everyone down to their knees and so it shall bring you down as well. @Ulanopo, I stopped beliving Advisors the moment they were proven wrong, you guys don't ''advice'' nor you help, you're just doing anything in your grasp to prove someone wrong. Is that helping? No, it's not, that's just evening things to 0 helps no one. And no, clearly proving someone wrong isn't considered as helping. As it's for the downvotes, I don't care, they mean nothing to me, never did and never will.

Voldymort2 votes

@Voldymort People like yourself are the reason why I quit. Your being so sarcastic

I don't know how i'm supposed to be sarcastic while not being aware of it myself... but ok...

and deluded that makes me cringe every time.

I'd rather be deluded than leave because muting people or being nice was too much of a hassle

[slayer-jinx-catface]

But fine, ego is what brings everyone down to their knees and so it shall bring you down as well.

Since you brought it up...

Ego is the reason you're commenting right now, despite your post claiming that you'd be leaving without bothering with the replies.

Ego is what kept you around to see what people think about a post in which you said you didn't care about what the opinions are.

And lastly, despite what you may be comforting yourself with, your ego is the reason you got banned. Not the players in your game.

We all deal with the same kinds of people in our games, but not all of us actually care about the negative things they have to say to the point we'd feel the need to retaliate via keyboard.

It's not the player's job to take part in a chat based shoving match. It's our job to play the game. No more. No less. If you're a fan of chat based shoving matches, then reddit is where you should go, not the league client!

As it's for the downvotes, I don't care, they mean nothing to me, never did and never will.

If they didn't, you wouldn't have brought them up when nobody else did

[sg-ahri-2]

Vlada Cut1 votes

{quoted}

If they didn't, you wouldn't have brought them up when nobody else did

And we asked for a commentator in this thread when exactly? I don't think so darling. And if you didn't care, why did you re-bring it on the first place? My oh my, I knew that people were salty, but hypocritical too?

MOLTinaTOR2 votes

And if you didn't care, why did you re-bring it on the first place?

Wait when did it say it didn't care?

CauseSCIENCE1 votes

And another one bites the dust.

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