Homophobic slurs every game- I'm done

Glamorous Rammus·6/22/2017, 8:12:54 AM·9 votes·1,981 views

I'm tired of playing games and getting harassed by people. If the internet was properly policed most of your community would be rotting in jail for hate crimes. I'm tired of it. I shouldn't have to mute players every game I play. I shouldn't have to deal with the homophobic and racial slurs. Reporting players does nothing because they'll simply make a new account and keep harassing other players. I can't just play a game, and have fun? I have to be harassed and hazed for simple mistakes.. I just want to play a game- but if I make even the simplest mistake I get bombarded with BULLSHIT. Delete this post Riot, idgaf. I'm done with your toxic community, and I'm done with your piss-poor policies that commend this sort of behavior.

55 Comments

Pandemic Punch6/22/2017, 8:31:29 AM12 votes

Free speech is a beautiful thing. The same right that allows you to make hateful posts on gaming forums and call for millions of people to rot in cages, is the same right that allows people to make stupid jokes in a video game that annoy people.

Evil Yasuo6/22/2017, 8:54:20 AM7 votes

Cry more. My suggestion is get off the internet if you're that thin skinned.

Winters Dawn6/22/2017, 8:22:14 AM5 votes

No matter what game or online related anything there is going to be toxicity. good luck finding something that doesn't

AlienPrimate6/22/2017, 9:01:04 AM5 votes

Just so you know, you will never get arrested just for calling someone a name they don't like. Also, how is it even possible to get homophobic slurs "every game?" I almost never see anything like that. Are you coming into every game announcing that you are gay or something?

Binjo6/22/2017, 9:40:40 PM4 votes

Get this man a safe space riot

Binjo6/22/2017, 9:31:27 PM4 votes

Yikes

SecondAirbane6/22/2017, 8:20:02 PM3 votes

bye

YerroFever6/24/2017, 6:47:56 AM3 votes

The legal analysis displayed in this thread deeply disturbs me on so many levels.

  1. You have no right to freedom of speech on private property. League of Legends, the game and the forums, are private property of Riot. The first amendment says that the government shall not restrict without due process. Not "you can say anything and everything anywhere without consequence." Riot can censor you and also remove you from their private property as they see fit. Riot can chat restrict you legally for saying a homophobic slur. Riot can temp ban you legally for saying homophobic slurs. Riot can permaban you legally for saying homophobic slurs.

If you disagree with the above statements, please contact the ACLU in your area and have them explain freedom of speech.

  1. Crimes are crimes. Screaming and yelling homophobic things alone does not make the screaming and yelling a hate crime. It only becomes a hate crime if the motivation behind the crime is based in bias against a protected class in that jurisdiction. The legal definition of hate crimes vary per jurisdiction but in most jurisdictions, if the perpetrator was targeting the victim because of a perceived protected class, that means it is a hate crime. If the jurisdiction you live in has a separate crime for hate crime, it will be codified as such. It may be labeled a bias crime. Not all jurisdictions use the same titles but the concept is fairly uniform across all jurisdictions. See your own state's laws to determine which classes are protected.

An example:

Player Y calls Player X a f-g while believing Player X is straight and is trying to trigger them because of the perceived frail masculinity. Player Y systematically and continuously harasses player X in game with homophobic slurs. Assume that the level of harassment reached criminal levels. Player Y did not commit a hate crime. Charged with only harassment.

Player Z calls Player X a f-g because Player Z believes Player X is gay. Player Z systematically and continuously harasses player X in game with homophobic slurs. Assume the level of harassment reached criminal levels. Player Z has committed a hate crime. Charged with harassment with an aggravating factor of a hate/bias crime.

Both player Y and Z are awful people and both used hate speech but only player Z committed a hate crime. If this example did not clarify, please seek outside legal counsel for further explanations.

  1. The tools are there for you to help shield yourself from further harassment. They are not there to eliminate it because the only way to eliminate the harassment is to change the way someone thinks and behaves and that is significantly more difficult for Riot. The best they can do is punish those who commit offenses and hope they reform. Remember theories of punishment in crim law? The temp bans and chat restrictions are specific deterrents focused on rehabilitation. They are a cooldown period for the offenders. Permabans are both general deterrents and also attempts at isolation.

  2. This is the real world. You can't expect to be shielded from everything. The world is imperfect. The world has hate, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, etc... You just need to use the tools you have to cope with it the best you can. You shouldn't have to mute people because human decency should be supreme, but it's not. Riot can't make sure these people aren't punished unless you actually flag their accounts by reporting them. You actually do a disservice to yourself and to the community by not reporting.

Additionally, you don't have to mute them. You can leave them unmuted and just show them it doesn't bother you. That's really where the power comes from. If those people say terrible things and you demonstrate that it got under your skin, you have let them win. You gave that power to them. Take away that power and make them twist in the wind. Deny them the satisfaction of your anger and hurt feelings.

Leaf on Bush6/22/2017, 9:37:02 AM2 votes

Did you play the games on this level 15 account? Afaik the toxicity level among new players is actually the highest and yes it's probably because toxic players make smurfs when they got banned or they make smurfs because they can't progress anymore. They will then proceed to get mad at new players who don't know what they are doing. xD

I think this kind of harassment you describe is rather rare, but then again I don't play on low level accounts.

DoktorKaiser6/22/2017, 7:44:56 PM2 votes

Racist stuff should be permabanned instantly, I have seen many neonazzi people in game and they never get banned. Its a disgrace. As for homophobic stuff I havent seen much of it, except of course the usual, words like gay or %%%got being used as insults which they are so I dont care much about it, if it triggers you then you need to get a thicker skin or you will be angry for the rest of your life. And for the rest of insults, the only troublesome ones are insulting a person's family and murder threats, thats just sick and also needs permaban level. Yeah and "gg so easy" people can die from ebola for all I care.

ShinkoMinori6/22/2017, 7:21:51 PM1 votes

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General Esdeath 6/23/2017, 6:53:05 AM1 votes

Or you know, you can mute. But I think it's better if you leave.

Summonah123696/25/2018, 11:03:38 AM1 votes

It's the internet, you're gonna get toxic things said to you, you can't change it. Did you just expect everything online to be sugarcoated and positive?

pees0086/25/2018, 10:53:08 AM1 votes

and that's why i quit lol many times