Run the numbers for the Tribunal

3TWarrior·6/27/2017, 5:38:39 AM·1 votes·342 views

so, I recently composed a situation in which optimal conditions can occur within a tribunal system, but the numbers were disturbingly broken, so I though tthis might be a helpful reminder to why cases are now upon manual review instead of by the original tribunal system (or in this case, a new and potentially unbiased group of volunteers making decisions about player behavior)

I would like someone to check my math and reasoning, but I also thought that a post like this might deter some of the complaints about having a "human only" review board that handles the rulebreakers of varying categories in league. These numbers are all theoretical and may contain overlap with toxic chat numbers, but I consider the amount still stands to reason (basically 1 bad egg in 10,000 people)

edit: I tried to quote it, but for some reason, it does not transfer properly and cuts off a portion of the text

the short version within lines*



the bottom line, with how good humanity is at avoiding punishment and how inefficient humans are, the choice is between designing an effective automated system, or waiting between 5 minutes and 70 years for volunteers to review all cases as a static number (meaning someone doesn't get back into the game whereas they clearly do AND that that number does not increase) (also bear in mind that that number is the worst amount possible and not a guaranteed result) so the real number if everything were optimized and perfect(which humanity is not) would be at least 2 people x (5 to 35 or up to 9 days) x (amount of cases / amount of volunteers) and that is with no variations at all... that comes to anywhere between 100 minutes/180 days(for 1000 volunteers) or if somehow a signifcan't figure of volunteers emerges, the number dwindles, but again, this does not include variables and assumes that every human being volunteering for this project is "perfect"

the man-power required to monitor league of legends is beyond humanly capable at this point and should be reserved for contested, debatable cases



100 million active players, if even 0.01% of people are rule-breakers, that's 10,000 people to review

that's probably an extreme, but there is not an accurate source given the number of undetected rule-breakers

if riot had 1,000 employees handling that, it would probably take a group discussion of anywhere between five minutes and 35 minutes in a best case scenario and could take hours more in other situations such as the recent debacle of Nunu support.

if only ONE EMPLOYEE(or volunteer) were handling each case, let's say it took anywhere between 5 min and close to 9 days like the above, it would take the review board: between 50 and 350 minutes to 90 days for any case in the ongoing list to be solved

if you then want to account for potential bias by having 2 people review each case, that number of course can double or even vary by up to a day or even longer depending upon circumstances, so you would be looking at anywhere between 5 minutes and 25,920 days (90 x (60/5minutes) x 24 hours)

you then have to account for that a volunteer system could make up some of this slack, but that said volunteers are likely going to be working on their own time, unpayed and during abstract hours of the day (which can mar judgement and minor motor skills and decision-making by noticeable amounts)

let's say that league somehow managed to amass 10,000 volunteers to match the case amount, it still takes the route of anywhere between 5 minutes and 9 days, doubled or more if only 10,000 and amassed with potentially biased volunteers that have to be accounted for.

also as a note, this is only taking into account gameplay and not nationality/ethnic origin(although a minority of players that I know of, the same goes that volunteers are volunteers and could come from any nation and be unaware of social context for other nations

If you then factor in that bans and punishments are not permanent except by on case by case basis and when they are permanent, the player has the option to make a new account simply with a new email address and false user credentials...

things just keep building up whereas the list needs to be cut short

1 Comments

Xidphel6/27/2017, 1:56:41 PM1 votes

I'd prefer the number of years since the tribunal stopped existing.