Permanent suspensions for toxicity

Corefornia·7/12/2019, 12:12:57 PM·1 votes·2,684 views

So i think permanently banning toxic players is too rough, i've been banned 2 times now and let me tell, after first ban i was like : yea, i was toxic but i won't let it happen again. At that point i was reformed and understood my mistakes and that i have to respect everybody no matter what. After that, i got toxic sometimes and eventually got my second permanent ban. I think that riot should give like chat restrictions until the end of the season or something and permanently suspend players that grief and int etc. . Because i know that toxicity isn't fun and stuff and i couldn't call myself toxic but sometimes i just can't hold that and i want you to understand me correctly instead of just hating. I know very well that toxicity isn't good at all and i always try NOT to be toxic but sometimes i can't hold it even though i've been working on it. I'm sure that it would be a lot better if toxic player wouldn't be put up to the start of the grind by taking their levels and skins but instead restricting some of the features nontoxic players have from the toxic players. I've talked to people and experienced a lot about this theme and i think that this is a great good solution to some of the problems Riot games have.

Wise words : People who experience toxicity WILL experience it again, because majority of toxic players will create a new acc and may be toxic again. If Riot games would do the system where toxic guys would get silenced in chat - they would basically be silenced and not create new acc to flame or so and there would be less or same amount of toxicity + the toxic players wouldn't get depressed because of the lost account. I hope you guys will agree to this.

53 Comments

CharDeeMcDenniz7/12/2019, 12:22:50 PM12 votes

so you ADMIT that you lack self control

and now RIOT is supposed to change the rules to accommodate that?

not a chance

Pxerkza7/12/2019, 12:21:31 PM6 votes

chat restrictions didn't really work

Shaclone had something like 1k games chat restriction after he finished the 1k games he got instantly 5k games chat restriction

did he stop being toxic? nop he started inting and griefing instead since he could no longer flame people with his words so he started flaming with his actions

the problem is that riot can't stop people like him from playing the game at all so they just spread their toxicity as they go as they no longer have anything to lsoe

Umbral Regent7/12/2019, 3:47:58 PM4 votes

I think that riot should give like chat restrictions until the end of the season or something and permanently suspend players that grief and int etc.

If being permanently banned and getting at least four total chat restrictions and two temporary bans wasn't enough for you to reform, what good would simply reapplying chat restrictions over and over ad nauseum do? Clearly, reforming isn't high on your priority list if you managed to get permanently banned twice.

Besides, Riot has done this before - they used to apply indefinitely-scaling Chat Restrictions, which largely resulted in people using their little allotted chat to be extremely toxic, or they opted to intentionally feed or troll to "prove a point". So not only does your idea fail in regards to your own anecdote, but Riot has seen that it'd fail in practice, too.

...but sometimes i just can't hold that and i want you to understand me correctly instead of just hating.

I neither hate nor understand you. What I do understand, very intimately, is anger. Yes, it is difficult to deal with sometimes, and yes, sometimes it can get to a point where it's just all-consuming, but in every case, you always have control. Not direct control, of course, you can't simply just flick a switch in your head and turn off the anger, but you have control nonetheless.

Diversions and release valves. You can redirect anger, or you can expel it. You can put anger to good use, or you can find a way to dissolve it so that it doesn't cause any damage. But if you don't try either of those and simply let anger get to you, then you are the problem, because you're not making an active effort to control it.

I'm sure that it would be a lot better if toxic player wouldn't be put up to the start of the grind by taking their levels and skins but instead restricting some of the features nontoxic players have from the toxic players.

In other words, the chat restrictions. The baseline punishment tier, that, when it comes to toxic players, typically doesn't work? How many times should Riot chat restrict you before they get tired of you ignoring the rules and being toxic? How long should Riot let you break the rules before they put their foot down?

Because, they have to put their foot down somewhere. They're not going to keep giving you the same punishment over and over and over again while you deliberately flout the rules you agreed to in their faces. You think permabanning toxic players is too rough, well, if you got to the permanent ban, then maybe you need Riot to be rough with you. 'Cause clearly, nothing else is working to get you following the rules.

I've talked to people and experienced a lot about this theme and i think that this is a great good solution to some of the problems Riot games have.

What problem? That toxic players don't like getting permanently banned? Frankly, that's not a problem that needs solving, especially not in a way that simply introduces more problems (like an uptick in trolling/intentional feeding cases).

...because majority of toxic players will create a new acc and may be toxic again.

And your source of that info is...?

If Riot games would do the system where toxic guys would get silenced in chat - they would basically be silenced and not create new acc to flame or so and there would be less or same amount of toxicity...

If your solution doesn't actually improve the situation, if you openly state that there's a chance that toxicity levels would stay the same, then your solution doesn't work.

Beyond that, refer above; players under longer-duration Chat Restrictions back when Riot had indefinitely-scaling CR's largely resolved to intentionally feed or troll to express their toxicity for lack of chat. Is that really something we want?

the toxic players wouldn't get depressed because of the lost account.

Here's a question; why should we feel concerned for how bad a toxic player feels after losing their account, when they show no concern for how other players feel for having to deal with their awful behavior?

If they lost their account, then I hate to say it, but, tough. They agreed to follow a set of simple behavioral rules, and they ignored and broke those rules time and time again, to the point where Riot had to give them the boot. If they feel bad about losing their account because they ran it into the ground, then maybe, just maybe, they'll learn to respect the rules.

But I see little reason to sympathize with players who go out of their way to make other peoples' games awful.

Upgrades7/12/2019, 6:50:18 PM2 votes

I don't think this is the game for you. Just my opinion

Imperial Pandaa7/12/2019, 1:49:59 PM1 votes

After reading what has been posted, seems like maybe you just shouldn't play until the next patch. Apparently in 9.14 the ability to opt out if ally chat will be a thing. Preventing you from seeing and sending messages to your team.

EhtOstäf7/12/2019, 1:42:24 PM1 votes

Here's my suggestion:

  1. First offense: Take out chat feature for the player for 3 months.
  2. 2nd offense: Take out chat feature AND upgrade features such as blue essence, experience points, mastery points, and rank. Whatever games he plays, he'll stay where he is: for 6 months.
  3. 3rd offense: Account banned for 1 year.
Telephone Booth7/12/2019, 11:48:48 PM1 votes

I guess if theyre gonna allow players to mute ally chat and all chat permanently, they might as well do permachat restricts again. Fuck it, idc.