penalties for people who leave match entirely should be more severe

JarodDempsey··2 votes·1,148 views

with the ease of matches tilting and the relative apathy of most players to report others for doing something wrong unless it directly effects them, people who leave the game should suffer more than a few minute penalty for leaving a match.

I know that after some leaves depending on how many games played the player gets warned and banned but thats too little too late.

I think the penalty should begin at 15 minutes then 24 hours then 7 days then 14 days then perma ban unless they can prove that their leaving was not their fault. Also it should take a month to go down a punishment level instead of 8 hours.

People seem to use the slap on the hand a free 1-3 get out of jail free card every day, which ruins an entire match for 9 other people when they do it. 6 minutes is a joke.

I get that someone might accidentally disconnect but couldnt league like ping the ip and if it was still reachable then they'd get a stronger ban. Obviously this wouldnt effect people who simply turn their computers off but it's still better than nothing and might at least deter a few people.

Alternatively perhaps people could be placed into various groups depending on how dependable they are. That way people with good connections and who never leave wont have to worry about leavers, people with bad connections and leavers can improve their behavior or internet to work their way back up.

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AeroWaffle2 votes

I think the penalty should begin at 15 minutes then 24 hours then 7 days then 14 days then perma ban unless they can prove that their leaving was not their fault.

How does one prove that however?

A person with a legitimate disconnect because of ISP trouble is going to look the same to Riot as someone who intentionally disconnected the cable or turned off their network device.

A person with an actual emergency and left the game closing the client or hitting the afk timer is going to look the same as someone who just closed the client because they didn't want to play any more.

JarodDempsey1 votes

Proving would be difficult but if it was found to be too strict then I'd suggest league move to the tier system i mentoned and perhaps reduce penalties to users in the lower tiers.

"I get that someone might accidentally disconnect but couldnt league like ping the ip and if it was still reachable then they'd get a stronger ban. Obviously this wouldnt effect people who simply turn their computers off but it's still better than nothing and might at least deter a few people."

evidently i wasnt clear in this paragraph. To be more clear, if league cant reach the user then they'd be left with a regular ban.

Also in the event of an emergency thats just how it goes. It's not like that person wouldn't be busy for 15 minutes anyways. Perhaps everyone could get 1 free pass per month. That should preclude emergent situations while still addressing the problem of people effectively having a daily leave as the system is now.

AeroWaffle1 votes

1 free pass per month is a pretty steep requirement for those that have a less than perfect internet connection or have a lifestyle that might demand their immediate attention away from a game more than once a month.

As it stands, I think the penalty for leaving is pretty fair.

Leaving nets them an automatic loss with additional negatives such as being guaranteed a loss (even if the team somehow nets a win), increasing their time in queue for several games at a time (increasing to about the time it takes to complete a full game), if it was a no show they still get hit by the full penalty while their team does not.

People leave early because they feel like they don't want to waste anymore time in the game. So the penalty forces them to waste time waiting for a game. If you increase the penalty too much they are going to stick around in the game and intentionally try to end it faster. Intentionally trolling is pretty damn hard to pin down if the perpetrator is even remotely trying to avoid the punishment. You also end up over-punishing the players that are unfortunate enough to just hit a bad patch of internet stability that week or had a few more instances where they had to leave the computer that month.

You can lower the instances where people intentionally leave by increasing the punishment. But you wont chance the accidental leaves nor will you change the desire of the intentional leavers to be done with the match.

JarodDempsey1 votes

I'd rather have a feeder than a leaver because riot can review the game and they'd get banned and kicked out of league faster than regular leavers who tread the ban line over and over again but continue playing because they can wait it out for 8 hours.

Also if your lifestyle frequently demands you to suddenly stop what youre doing during the course of 30-60 minutes then perhaps you'd be better off playing an rpg instead of an mmo.

Leavers are just too common right now. At least a third of lobbies/matches have a leaver since they removed teambuilder. I think at the very least the reset timer should be significantly longer and instead of completely resetting it should move the leaver down one instance.

AeroWaffle1 votes

I'd rather have a feeder than a leaver because riot can review the game and they'd get banned and kicked out of league faster than regular leavers who tread the ban line over and over again but continue playing because they can wait it out for 8 hours.

You're assuming that the feeder is going to throw the game in a way that's easy for the system to detect. I would much prefer someone who just leaves (allowing for an easier surrender vote) than a person who is subtly trolling the whole game trying to make me upset and have us lose.

Also if your lifestyle frequently demands you to suddenly stop what youre doing during the course of 30-60 minutes then perhaps you'd be better off playing an rpg instead of an mmo.

You're asking for only a single free pass for a whole month. That's not "frequently". That can easily be 1 free pass among dozens or even a hundred games. You might as well require the player to not have children, significant other, parents (elderly or otherwise), or a job that might call them for an emergency.

I think at the very least the reset timer should be significantly longer and instead of completely resetting it should move the leaver down one instance.

That's a more reasonable suggestion. But like I said, the more harsh you make the punishment the more likely you'll just increase the number of trolls with no actual benefit.

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