Smurfs Are AIDS

SofaKingAmazn··5 votes·1,339 views

ok, so i admit im not a b.a. LoL player. i am legit a bronze 1-2 player trying to play and learn to get better. but every single game i go into as of late has a bunch of smurfing toxic players. they arent constructive at all and are exploiting the game, plain and simple. for those of you who do smurf have you ever stopped to think what the other players may think about you trashing their ranks. how am i supposed to rise in the leaderboards when every game has at least two people from gold/plat ranking admitting to playing some friends account for ranks or ranking up a smurf account. this seriously makes the game no fun to play at all for those of us who arent super good players. there is a reason im in bronze and you are not. just because you cant win in your own bracket doesnt mean your should go roflstomping on people you KNOW cant beat you at all. of course this post will draw some ignorant troll comments instead of anything constructive or proactive from the community. and of course riot will have no input on this because they dont care. guess us actual bronze players shouldn't bother putting money into your game since it has now evolved into an elitist community ran by higher ranked players....

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jaymc11303 votes

Part of the problem, sofaking, is that the matchmaking and ranked systems are very poorly designed in terms of their functionality for low level play and in general. The ranking system does not use any individual metrics to help in determining a players skill level, so things like kda, cs, objectives controled or secured, vision control and placement, etc have no impact on a players individual ranking in solo q. This is one of the inherent flaws of using the elo system as the solo q ranking system, it's a ranking system designed for chess. Individual on individual competition. As long as the system is ranking a single participant in relation to other single participants it works excellently, so it's fine for chess, or magic the gathering, or even if used for team ranked 5s in league.

The end result of this for solo q players is that the system is only particularly effective at the absolute highest levels of play (roughly the top 1% or so of the ranked player base) where team work, game knowledge, and mechanical ability of all players is at such a high level that it's a given every player involved in a match possesses those individual skill qualities and the games come down to a teams ability to execute a particular strategy. The unfortunate side effect of this is that players in lower level play, despite often having identical rankings and mmrs, can display a wide variance in terms of individual skill. This ultimately results in poor matchmaking since the matchmaking system uses the ranking systems data to pair players for matches and the ranking system itself is bad at identifying a player's skill level.

I feel your pain, and fully understand why it upsets you, it creates an unfair environment for about 95% of the competitive player base and invalidates the results of the vast majority of ranked games that are ever played. As a high level player myself I have ruined more than my fair share of games moving my many accounts up the ladder and early on this season I made a post in regards to exactly this, which I will attempt to find and post a link for you in a moment. I've been demanding that the metrics used to rank players be changed since about the end of season 2, and it's my hope we will, in time, see changes that will address this issue. Something as simple as using the champion mastery grade shown in the post game lobby (a good measure of individual performance in match) to manipulate or influence mmr gains to allow the system to more quickly and appropriately place players in the correct skill brackets could work wonders. This isn't the only thing that could be done, but it was a recommendation of mine back in season three when I also proposed something extremely similar (like almost identical) to the champion mastery system.

Let me see if I can find a link to my thread from several months back.

Found it! http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/aYt44eZZ-my-issue-with-the-ranked-and-matchmaking-systems-summed-up

SofaKingAmazn2 votes

i actually learned a good deal from this and your linked post. thanks for the input. i hope soon riot will do something, ANYTHING to help the issue but i doubt they will. we arent raising them money from e-sports or anything like that so we arent important at the bottom of the food chain. at least that is how they make it seem a lot of times.

jaymc11301 votes

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i actually learned a good deal from this and your linked post. thanks for the input. i hope soon riot will do something, ANYTHING to help the issue but i doubt they will. we arent raising them money from e-sports or anything like that so we arent important at the bottom of the food chain. at least that is how they make it seem a lot of times.

Yeah, it does seem that way doesn't it. :(

Glad to offer some insight mate. The one good piece of news? The systems may not work well, but they do work some. It makes the game a grind, but a large enough sample size helps to correct some of the flaws inherent in the system at small sample sizes. The bonus of this is that as you increase the sample size you also gain experience that leads to improved performance and understanding of the system. Many people who create a new account (those smurf accounts that can occasionally make you upset) often find it quickly out paces the ranked growth of their previous account, hence the reason so many smurf accounts exist. It can be annoying and frustrating to deal with them, but they can also function as a "do over" button for those interested in climbing the ladder.

Daen2 votes

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or those of you who do smurf have you ever stopped to think what the other players may think about you trashing their ranks. how am i supposed to rise in the leaderboards when every game has at least two people from gold/plat ranking admitting to playing some friends account for ranks or ranking up a smurf account.

From what I understand, this is something Riot is cracking down on super hard lately (specifically, MMR boosting/account sharing). If you see someone saying it in chat out loud, take a screenshot, report it, and send a ticket to support if you're so inclined with that screenshot.

guess us actual bronze players shouldn't bother putting money into your game since it has now evolved into an elitist community ran by higher ranked players....

The vast majority of players, including higher ranks, despise MMR boosting. It ruins the balance of the ranked system at all levels of play for all games involving one of these accounts, and is overall just a supremely annoying thing to deal with.

Please don't assume that the entire community is elitist and engaged in cheating as a whole based on a few bad eggs, and Riot is working really hard to get rid of them.

SofaKingAmazn2 votes

id like to think so except for when they just faceroll us for ya know 20-3, 25-6, 19-2, etc. etc.... and usually i just brush it off but this literally happens for a good solid month or so at the end of EVERY season......it makes it discouraging to even play anymore sometimes.

Daen1 votes

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id like to think so except for when they just faceroll us for ya know 20-3, 25-6, 19-2, etc. etc.... and usually i just brush it off but this literally happens for a good solid month or so at the end of EVERY season......it makes it discouraging to even play anymore sometimes.

To whom are you responding?

SofaKingAmazn1 votes

that was for Zack. sorry your comment had not loaded when i was responding to his :D but to respond to you is that a report i need to do on the website? i dont think there is an option in the client report box that i know of.

ModPrandine1 votes

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that was for Zack. sorry your comment had not loaded when i was responding to his :D but to respond to you is that a report i need to do on the website? i dont think there is an option in the client report box that i know of.

If you want to get in touch with Riot directly then your best bet is to file a Support Ticket about your issue.

ZACKandATTACK1 votes

The "smurfs" in Bronze are either 1) In Bronze or silver on their other accounts or 2) Aren't even smurfs and they just say that they are to get the roles that they want.

Madtepez1 votes

I find it particularly upsetting that such a title would be used in a sub-forum dedicated to player beahivior & moderation....

Aqulinius1 votes

there are so many problems in those low ranks the major one is putting lvl 30 accounts on 1200 base mmr WHICH MAKES NO SENSE 90% of them drop hard and ruin your game they have no idea how to lasthit not to stay in lane with 5% hp and so on you check them afterwards and see 20 ranked games and 200 normal wins...great meanwhile the 90% winrate nautilus with 20 games on the other side.....

jaymc11301 votes

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there are so many problems in those low ranks the major one is putting lvl 30 accounts on 1200 base mmr WHICH MAKES NO SENSE 90% of them drop hard and ruin your game they have no idea how to lasthit not to stay in lane with 5% hp and so on you check them afterwards and see 20 ranked games and 200 normal wins...great meanwhile the 90% winrate nautilus with 20 games on the other side.....

The baseline mmr of new to ranked accounts is another flaw with the current system unfortunately. It seems a bit silly to have baseline be higher than the average league player mmr, meaning most players will move down the ladder from baseline.

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