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The summoner's code, does riot even follow it?

Tuntoon·10/6/2017, 6:49:57 AM·2 votes·460 views

To me, it feels as if riot doesn't really care if their own code is followed. They don't try to promote a healthy learning community, just a competitive one. And through this idea we keep watching as the pool of players becomes more and more toxic.

When I learn a game, I want to understand why I'm losing or winning. Not, "wow, you should never play this game again" or "good game, that was easy" (the exact opposite of a good game in my opinion). It just doesn't seem like this game will stand the test of time with the current attitude.

When someone on my team starts mouthing off to the opponents (even after he gets carried or we lose, of course) I always ask why they feel the need to talk like that. I never get a reasonable answer. Mostly just people saying, "because I felt like it" or "because it doesn't matter and I'll never see them again." What a way to treat strangers.

I would love to hear from a rioter how they intend to keep getting people involved and how they are going to get the next generation involved, but honestly, I doubt they look that far ahead. Really, I think this game will die in a couple years, or more worrisome to me, is that the game will continue and younger and younger children will get involved and learn to be hateful like the toxic pool of now. There is nothing that would make me want to get my would-be children in this game right now. They would learn terrible hateful habits while I wasn't playing with them. I understand the game is rated T or whatever, but that doesn't mean I would get even a middle schooler or high schooler involved.

It's just not an environment that is conducive of learning as opposed to hating/blaming. And, it feels like riot doesn't care as long as they are raking it in. I would appreciate a conversation with any player behavior expert. Not to pose an ultimatum, but i'm rather inclined to move away from this kind of game which, at it's core i consider extremely fun and challenging, but on the surface has a terrible community. I really think the behavior threshold is very lax compared to any truly competitive sport. But, as they say, "good luck in e-sports."

I would much rather talk via email, but it doesn't seem like they care about back and forth there either.

Truly, Tun

7 Comments

Zezockary10/6/2017, 7:29:32 AM2 votes

So, you posted this thread in the player behavior boards, which is where it belongs, but did you take time to read any of the other threads here?

Most of the threads posted on this board are people who have been punished for toxic behavior with either chat restrictions, suspensions, or permanent bans. Many of them banned for what you are talking about in this thread.

So I pose the following counter questions;

Have you been reporting this kind of behavior?

Why or why not?

What would you propose they do beyond what they are currently doing?

Kartagia10/6/2017, 7:57:28 AM2 votes

Riot does not follow summoner's code, and they have admitted it on Support Singed case. Dev himself wrote "you should not report player for playing off-meta, but if you do, we continue punish them".

Riot stop following summoner's code, when they altered interpretation of summoner's code to prohibit arguing against rules violators. Thus they said you should not defend wrongly accused people, or say to rules violator, he is wrong.

ModPeriscope10/6/2017, 9:47:43 AM2 votes

There is nothing that would make me want to get my would-be children in this game right now.

Riot has a strict diploids only law.

As for riot caring about player behavior, they've implemented the instant feedback system. This notified players more quickly about their infraction, from weeks to minutes, increasing the likelihood of reform. They've also implemented the new honor system, encouraging players to interact positively.

I don't think they will ever eradicate toxicity in games, but I don't think they'll be satisfied with their efforts on it either.

WhiteEyesBlueSol10/6/2017, 11:32:29 AM2 votes

I will agree with you that Riot does not promote a healthy game environment for the community, even though they try, they do not try hard enough. Their email system takes you to someone that actually has no authority to make decisions and only alerts those who can if what you tell them is legitimate. Take a look at my thread "Consider changes to toxicity bans" where I discuss this.