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Show appreciation to a good mid laners, please.

XinZhao2WinNhao··2 votes·801 views

You don't know how much mid laners win the game for teams when we do 90% of the work to win mid lane, and then go bot lane and win your lane too, and then go top to win top lane while counterjungling the enemy Amumu. We keep up our words of encouragement even when the team wants to give up. Even when you're feeding 0/10, we tell you "you're okay, you can do it!" and then we gank you 3 times until you go from 0/10 to 1/10 to 8/10 to 16/10, until we win the game. Even if the whole team is 0/8, 1/3, 1/10, 2/6 your mid laner is 26/3 and doing our best to win the game for you. We never rage in game, or complain about anything, we just take everything that we get and try to make the best out of it while encouraging others to do the same. The bot laners might be calling us "fucking noob KSers" or "KS idiots" and we will continue ganking them and helping them while ignoring their constant jetstreams of insults and curse words. We don't complain when we get KSed. We try our best to shotcall even if the team ignores us for no reason. And no matter how frustrated we are, we still keep trying our best to encourage everyone with positive words and positive performance.

It really sucks sometimes when you feel like your effort is being ignored, especially if the teammates also shout abuse at you for being a "noob KSer" and kicking your back as you're carrying them. People say that support is a thankless job, but I think that mid lane is the real thankless job, and you can change that by showing appreciation (it could be something simple as much as saying "thanks for carrying" or "thanks for the morale boost"). Really, just one word "thanks" can make someone a really happy mid laner, especially if they're someone with very strong League dreams and wishes to become a LCS player. Just that one word shows them that you value them as a teammate and that you respect what they do to win you games, and to a serious League player it's really important, especially a player who has plenty of friends who will be graduating college and moving away after this semester.

18 Comments

Hauling Ashe2 votes

Oh, please. You mid lane mains already get all the glory.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

Nobody appreciates a single thing I do to carry them. They say "fuck you kat ks"

Martensitic1 votes

You don't know how much mid laners win the game for teams when we do 90% of the work to win mid lane

Seriously?

Please tell that to all the midlane Yasupros, who go 0/3 in 7 minutes.

Dolasaur1 votes

You have to have 3 deaths before you can get to 26/3 like OP said ;)

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

But even so, mid laners have a large responsibilty. They have to hold their own lane, gank and sometimes counterjungle.

They also have to win bot lane for them because most adc and support mains aren't very good at league.

Martensitic3 votes

They also have to win bot lane for them because most adc and support mains aren't very good at league.

Okay, that sentence, sorry, is just BS.

Do you have any Idea how many midlaners I had to carry from the support position, because they are your archetypical "Yasupro" going 0/3 in 7 minutes?

But even so, mid laners have a large responsibilty

So does the toplaner. Many games on my history I won by crushing the lane as renekton, drawing 3 people to me just to stop me, or dominated by kicking towers down like dominos on my lanepush Nasus. I'm a toplane main, and in most of my games, Its me helping the mid kill the T1 turret, not the other way around. Oh and good luck in those lategame teamfights without me providing the frontline.

So does the Jungler. Currently hands down the most impactful role in the game.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

Junglers almost never gank my lane, they just sit in the jg and farm nonstop and after they are full build they're still farming.

Top lane just does his own thing.

Mid lane isn't just mid lane. Mid lane is mid lane, bot lane and jungle together.

Martensitic1 votes

So you blame the jungler for not winning the game for you, but somehow still try to tell us BS how midlane totally dominates the entire game, including ofc the jungle.

Interesting. Tell me, how do you explain that discrepancy? On the one hand you blame the jungler for not carrying you, on the other hand you say its your job to carry, your lane is the most important, and you have to counterjungle and win jungle so hard?

Wouldn't that mean that you don't do the midlane you describe yourself too well? ^^

And you also plainly have no idea what's going on on toplane. I would even go so far and say you never played it.

Let me guess...you totally don't deserve the ELO you are at and its all the fault of those bad players who hold you back, all thise junglers who don't permagank JUST FOR YOU! Because YOU! are the midlane, and YOU! should be their only focus.

I am done here.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

I've played top lane twice in the past year due to autofill, but yeah, I don't play top lane. It's the boringest of all the lanes and it's just farm farm farm farm farm and nothing else. Waste of 40 minutes of my time.

It's my job as a mid laner to carry everyone from top lane to bot lane to jungle. I can't rely on bronze teammates to do it for me, so I make it my job. Mid lane is the best lane for going everywhere in the lowest amount of time so I pick mid.

People should appreciate the fact that in plenty of my games I get more kills than all other 4 players combined and I carry them in games that they wouldn't have won. They should appreciate the fact that I actually won all of their lanes for them.

And I do do the jungler's job for them. In fact, in 42% of my games I get tagged as a jungler by lolking because I do all of their work for them despite me being mid lane.

You don't know how many times I, as a mid laner, went into the enemy jungle to kill the enemy jungler because my own jungler was still 2 levels behind. You don't know how many times I, as a mid laner, went down bot to secure double kills. You don't know how many times I, as a mid laner, go top to secure a kill. (Honestly not that much for top lane because they're too tanky).

President Swa1n1 votes

As a fellow mid laner, I'd like to disagree with all your arbitrary generalizations and stereotypes.

ADCs and Supports aren't all inherently terrible. In fact, I've been carried by them many times. I don't always go 26/3 and hard carry every game. Although I have a relatively high KDA, most of my wins are a team effort. I don't believe either that mid lane is necessarily the hardest lane. Each lane has their own responsibilities. Wave control is, for example, something I've learnt from playing top lane secondary, and it is an important skill to pick up.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

You don't play in my games.

I purposely pick mid because I know I'm going to need to hold 3 lanes, and mid lane is the shortest distance to bot and top. When I pick mid I'm not picking mid lane, I'm picking mid, bot and top lane at the same time.

Look at my kill count vs my teammates, in many of my games I have more than 50% of team kills. That means that I have more kills than the other 4 players combined.

President Swa1n1 votes

I don't believe that's a healthy mindset to have. Everyone tries to play the 1v9 role but you also must learn the art of sometimes being able to get carried. Sometimes, all you need to do is win your own lane and snowball yourself. Putting your snowball at risk by visiting other lanes is not good for the team.

midnight oil241 votes

You're sort of saying that mid laners do all the work, but that's not true. I appreciate help, but I'm not going to be as appreciative if it comes from someone who's prancing about shouting about how they want credit. You get credit by helping and killing enemies. I've seen many good mid laners who are jerks and act superior, and have told me I'm trash. Mid laners like you are rather depressing, because you have a superiority complex.

Also, I'd rather have a terrible mid than have a pretentious glory hog carry the game. Reading your comments below, you say that you pick mid because you know you'll have to really play all three lanes. That doesn't make people want to play with you. It makes people think, "get over yourself".

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

You don't know how it feels like to not be appreciated for every bit of help you give people for years of playing League, and have people just take, take, take from you without saying a simple thanks. I don't act superior in game, and I always keep up morale with constant pep talks. When I give pep talks and say things like "we can do it, we just need to work as a team" people tell me to "shut up". I get showered with constant abuse like "KS noob kat" or "fuck off you suck" and I just shrug it off and I continue helping them. Do they appreciate it? Nope. It's starting to piss me off. I don't shout about how I want credit in game. I just seriously wish that people would realize that everyone in the world likes to be thanked for the help they give. Nobody wants to feel underappreciated or unthanked.

Would you be happy if you lent money to your friend everyday and he never pays it back, never says thanks and believes he's entitled to you lending him money all the time? When there's a party he never invites you, but when he needs money he knows who to ask. You'd probably be just as pissed off as I am. You'd probably also stop lending him money, but in league you can't stop lending your team help.

midnight oil241 votes

I try to help people out and I've gotten a number of "omg jinx ks" or told that I'm not important because I can't get many kills yet. Yet I know that the majority of games people do appreciate me, just don't say it. I know you feel like you're constantly abused, but the human mind focuses on the negative. You've probably had many positive encounters too. I like to be thanked, but I'm not going to run around expecting thanks for doing my job. It's my job, I have to do it, and if they don't want to say thanks that's their business.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

Well I grew up lending people money and tutoring classmates because I thought it made me friends and then I learned that it doesn't, and that they never invited me to any of their parties but continued asking me to tutor them or lend them money.

Ever since then I've been a bit cynical about not being thanked or appreciated.

It takes 5 seconds to say "thanks, you did well" and it makes someone feel appreciated for weeks.

midnight oil241 votes

I get it. We'd all like to be thanked. But the truth is, people don't just run around saying thanks. I say thanks, but there are times where I wish I hadn't because those people then go on to yell at the adc for killstealing a malphite that the jinx had done a ton of damage to.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

Yeah the toxic community really grinds my gears. I report them and they are still playing the game and just as toxic as before.

My reports literally do nothing.

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