Is Telling an Ally they are doing bad, and should've done something different, toxic behavior?

livefreordiebard·12/11/2015, 4:50:24 AM·4 votes·673 views

Scenario: You are the easily the most fed champion in your current game. It is on you to carry the game and lead your team to victory. Suddenly you see someone misplay. You directly (not necessarily politely, but certainly not rudely.) tell the offending teammate what they did was a bad play. You also explain what the better move in your own opinion would'v been. Is this considered toxic/ reportable behavior, or should this be allowed? Let me know with your votes below.

14 Comments

IcyPepper12/11/2015, 4:52:12 AM6 votes

It's all about tact.

Do Not:

"You're bad. Terrible play."

Do:

"Let [champion] engage before you jump in. Don't worry, we got this. Everybody makes mistakes."

TheCeeJay12/11/2015, 5:01:31 AM2 votes

I think it all comes down to how you say it. Obviously saying "gg you suck and did this wrong, you should have done this instead but you didn't because you're bad" is way different from "hey, you made a mistake but it's no big deal. next time try this instead and maybe it'll go better."

Killumx12/12/2015, 2:01:58 AM2 votes

its not toxic but theres better ways to phrase it so as to not make them more upset

Samus7212/11/2015, 8:19:36 AM1 votes

I'm with everyone else. It depends on how you said it.

There is also the idea that if you have to ask if it's a bad thing to say to someone, should you really say anything to them at all?

DREADN0UGHT12/12/2015, 2:25:16 AM1 votes

As someone already mentioned: its all about the way you mention it.

"You are fucking bad, why did you flash into that?" = big no no. May trigger someone

"Flashing into that wasn't the best move NA" = non-constructive criticism. Not reportable imo but not helping either

"Next time lets wait for them to engage before we pull that off" = hints at his mistake but isn't a direct shot at him.

At work, i train and manage people. And one thing i learned from interacting with different people for so long is that its always better to use "we" in a team effort context. The message gets across and nobody feels like they are being singled out.

And if you really need to target a specific person: try doing a "shit sandwich":

  1. what he is doing fine
  2. what he should improve
  3. "we got this"/ "i'm right with you"
ModPrandine12/11/2015, 4:56:16 AM

It all depends on how you phrase the message towards them. For example, saying something like "Try playing a bit safer since they seem to be focusing on punishing your over-aggressive plays" is fine, but saying something like "stop being so aggressive you noob" is not. Of course it's also important to keep in mind that even if you try to phrase it in a respectful manner, if they're not willing to listen to your advice then just drop it and move on instead of keeping on about it.