Pre-game Shenanigans: Rito Pls

Sorin Alucard·9/10/2016, 4:08:32 PM·5 votes·588 views

I've already posted about this before. Normally repeating a post wouldn't be something I do, but I think it would be awesome to get real answers for this one.

Can we get some pre-game dissuasion to allies banning your pick intent pls? There are too many players who just straight up ban their allies' picks in rank then tell them f off or laugh at them. If its not happening to me, its happening to someone else in my lobby

I understand that you can post game report them by keeping track of their summoner names, but really that puts the targets of the trolling in a shittier position. Hear me out

One example is a promos game I had. Already won 1, lost 1. Ally bans my pick intent. Laughs and says mb. I say its ok it happens. switch my pick intent. His buddy who was next in line to ban, banned my second pick. Both start laughing. I continue the game and mute them when we start. We lose. There's little to no cooperation between me and these two. They ignore my pings, I don't follow them into a few plays, etc. Post game they're raging and demanding reports on me for trolling because they banned my pick intents.

End result, I played a game that was entirely unenjoyable for the sake of my LP and not wanting bans. I lost the LP, and had to submit my own counter report anyway. I still received a report

The other option would've been to dodge the lobby, get a penalty time, lose the LP, lose the promos slot. I could then report, but its not going to lift any penalties I just received, and they are probably playing another game already. This happens A LOT.

Let's also not forget how long these queue times are. I waited how long to get trolled? Now its either 30 min more trolling or 30 min no game? LP loss either way?

Do you see the inbalance in effort here? i receive more bans of my champions from allies who thinks its funny than my opponents who benefit from the decision. Even if you stick it out, how are players suppose to feel about being stuck with allies who have already actively screwed them at the word "Go"? Great player cohesion

I suggest pre game/ in game report But that's just a suggestion. Ultimately I just want people to have less power to mess up my game before it begins

18 Comments

Gimpy899/10/2016, 6:02:29 PM2 votes

the game shouldn't let you ban a champ that is selected as pick int. this is an easy fix.

Sorin Alucard9/10/2016, 4:15:22 PM1 votes

^ Form of apology

Icy Hot Shoto9/10/2016, 6:15:39 PM1 votes

If you're one of the last 2-3 to pick(depending on side) and your pick intent is, for example, Fiora, then I'm gonna ban Fiora to prevent the enemy team from getting her unless the first or second(again depending on side) pick is willing to grab her for you. No offense or anything, but I don't want to deal with a possibly fed Fiora. Or if it's a new champion because I'd rather not risk the enemy getting them.

I can see why it should be reportable, which it is if they did in fact say/prove they did it on purpose to troll/tilt you, but if it IS an accident or any of the two things above, just deal with it instead of whining or don't show your pick intent.

Also, there is/was a bug where it wouldn't show your pick intent. So a mistaken ban could happen if for some reason the client wasn't showing your pick intent for the person/people banning.

Ryuyah9/10/2016, 6:39:33 PM1 votes

You know that losing promos with 97 LP and playing another match is better than losing promos with ~75 LP and wasting 30+ minutes of your time with trolls right?

Morality Coach9/10/2016, 7:10:26 PM1 votes

Nothing wrong with going hard in the pregame. That's how I work all my toxic out so I can be quiet during the game.

Riot agrees with me, pre chat is not counted in the tribunal and I doubt people actually get banned for pre game chat on a manual review.

phil7019/10/2016, 9:06:42 PM1 votes

It should run on a LeaverBuster like system, where multiple repeated ally pick intent bans cause punishment. I hate trolls, but if mid and top are last 2 picks and one selects Yasuo, I'm still banning him if no one can first pick him.

Sorin Alucard9/11/2016, 7:02:12 PM1 votes

Also, that rant is not personally aimed at you

Karunamon9/10/2016, 4:10:30 PM1 votes

I still received a report

You don't know if you received a report or not.

I suggest pre game/ in game report

For the love of gods this. There are so many more ways to screw with someone other than in game, and that's the only thing Riot lets you report.

Sorin Alucard9/12/2016, 6:52:59 PM1 votes

if one person offers no dialogue or communicative reason as to why they were intentionally banning a pick, you'd never know if it was accident or not. It's flawed to think that discerning between individuals' reasons could be done fairly and accurately with Riot's current capabilities

I do believe my suggestion offers more overall options with reduced trolling. If you put your pick intent, your allies can't ban it. As long as you leave it selected, they can't ban it. If an enemy bans it (a risk every game) you choose someone else If you don't announce pick intent and your ally bans your pick, then its on you Trades can still occur. Use your chat. You can still scroll through your list of champs to show allies possible trades.

At most trolling would be reduced to outright trolls (nothing new) Or someone might use the opportunity of you cast scrolling for trade to ban your main pick,

How are you helping by banning your "troll suspect" Are you preventing a troll from picking a more troll pick? If they want to troll they could pick ANYONE and accomplish the job. If you banned that Teemo adc on your team he might just laugh and be Sejuani adc instead He might also have been a super legit Teemo adc, but you've now harmed morale/trust at the least

I just can't see weighing the chance of 1 OP pick (even if it is last) being so significant as to justify making decisions unilaterally for your ally. Yes, The enemy can still ban/pick the champ before your ally, but that's a fair risk considering how many champions will still be available after bans and picks are done. That goes for you and your ally.

My defense for Off-meta players stands still too. They deserve a shot at playing without being witch hunted by teammates

Where is the potential abuse to this? How is this removing any benefits the champ select system is supposed to inherently offer?

Ty for your thoughts so far by the way. I'm enjoying the discussion