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Severity of Punishments, Especially near Season End

Roger Fakerer·11/6/2019, 4:31:50 PM·2 votes·2,144 views

So I am an honor 5 player. I was until I had one bad game where I lost my temper. I had an inting support, and I made the mistake of calling him a R%%%%%. I then tried to get the team to FF which they refused to do. Turns out they were a premade and all reported me. I went from Honor 5 to Honor 0 and had a 10 game chat restriction. Sadly this happened with less than 2 months left in the season.

Now, I admit I was wrong. I should not call people r%%%%%s, or grief my team by continuously trying to FF when they clearly dont want to give up. I agree with the 10 game chat restriction, it is a fair penalty that makes you think twice about what you say to others in game.

The part I really do not like about this is that Riot does not consider your past history at all when handing out the punishment. For a player who is regularly honor 5 and has ONE bad game, it seems like overkill to send them from 5-0.

The worst part is that Riot also does not consider how close you are to season end when this sort of thing happens. I could be a jerk and get punished early in the season and easily climb back to honor 2 for the season end rewards. But if you mess up late in the season you are screwed. I have even played extra games since the incident to try and get my honor back. I probably have over 300 honors in a month, and I am sitting at honor 1, checkpoint 1. There is basically no way I can get back to honor 2 in time for the season end.

I feel like the system currently encourages infinite trolling early in the season followed by this legit fear of losing honor at the end of the season. This seems imbalanced to me in terms of the weight of bad behavior related to the time of the season. I also think it is unfair not to consider the users history when determining how much honor they need to rise through the levels.

Basically I am bummed I will miss out on the season end rewards, despite being honor 5 for 99% of the season, only getting reported 1 time in years, and even collecting large amounts of honor to no avail since then.

7 Comments

Oleandervine11/6/2019, 5:02:07 PM6 votes

Why would Riot take your past into account when you know the rules and how not to break them? If you break the rules, you get punished - everyone knows this.

If you get punished, you get to Honor 0, and thus forfeit your end of season rewards. Everyone has known this since last year.

So in short, you know the rules, you knows what happens when you break them. So why break the rules to begin with? Just because you've gone all season without breaking the rules doesn't mean you should softly punished because you break the rules at the end of the season.

If I steal a car on December 23rd, and go to prison for 15 days, I will miss Christmas. Don't do stupid things period, but especially don't do stupid things just before a specific time where you'll be wanting something.

GatekeeperTDS11/6/2019, 5:18:36 PM4 votes

The worst part is that Riot also does not consider how close you are to season end when this sort of thing happens.

YOU, not Riot, did not consider how close you were to season end before mouthing off and getting yourself punished.

Basically I am bummed I will miss out on the season end rewards

Yes, punishments are supposed to feel bad or they don't work.

rujitra11/6/2019, 5:32:23 PM2 votes

Why do you deserve an honor level that shows people you're honorable when you've displayed that you weren't honorable?

Kei14311/6/2019, 6:28:49 PM2 votes

2 months is more than enough to climb back from h1 to h2, and if you weren't able to climb out during that time, it probably means you weren't that honorable during those two months.

Now if you were dropped down to h0, then you would have been 14-day banned instead, and if that's the case, I don't have sympathy for you. Though it's still possible to get back to h2 in 2 months.

If you just got a chat restriction and dropped down to h0, it means that you were at h1 before the punishment, so you weren't h5.

You have holes in your story. Exaggerations and making up stories not help you to make a case.

Pandemic Punch11/6/2019, 4:49:43 PM1 votes

I hear you loud and clear. Riot will not though. They will defend the automated system all of the way to the end if you say a single insult in a match, even if you have had a clean account for 8 years. Of course... They better maintain this stance I suppose because a loooooot of people will be asking for some kind of compensation if they don't. Also from Riot's perspective though, they might believe you will continue that behavior if you get away with it in one game without any consequences.

As far as I am concerned, no one should get punished for typing in chat. Every player has the power to silence other players with the mute button. Players don't have the power to mute other players from intentionally losing games, so that should be their focus... I can't count how many times I have been called r%%%%%ed, %%%%, autistic, kys, threatened to be killed, or threats for my family to be raped and killed. None of those accounts got any punishment. If ANY of them did, their punishment didn't equate to one that I had years ago for typing one word in chat in response to an offender (who also did not receive a punishment) that committed the exact same offense. I know because their account was still active while I got a 14-day ban as my first punishment ever on a 7 year old account.

To Riot, context doesn't matter so it will feel like Riot is tag teaming you with the actual players who have an intent to be toxic. Even more so when the toxic players know which words trigger the bans. You can also get punished just from typing too much with nothing offensive being said (assuming you got reported). If you know what to avoid, you can be as toxic as you want. It is extremely unfair to players who mean well but don't puss out when people are cussing them out or threatening them.

Sky Cardis11/6/2019, 5:28:01 PM1 votes

I got my Honor 5 a few days ago. Plan on keeping it. [slayer-jinx-catface]