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I love you Riot, but sometimes trolls dont get punished.

TrainerRobo··1 votes·1,127 views

Let me at least explain the story that lead to me posting this, so you dont think im one of those "LMAO FUCK RITO" people, because i'm really not and I respect riot as a company and think they do a good job.

I'm playing ranked as toplane Urgot, which i commonly do so i can play a solo lane, and my jungler forgets to bring smite because he said he was tired (First, why play ranked when you're tired?), and proceeded to stick around in my lane instead of attempting to jungle. I asked him to leave my lane, but he continued to stay in my lane. He was attacking creep which was throwing me off for CS, and stole some of it as well. He was reducing my xp by staying in lane with me while i asked him to leave many times. Finally, He feeds the enemy garen and goes to a different lane. We lost the game due to garen snowballing after the early kill, and i reported him after the game for trolling/griefing, which he very clearly was considering after asking him many times to leave my lane and stop taking my cs/xp. Nothing happened.

I feel like your automated system doesn't do the job properly. I wrote down what happened in the box and hit send report, but nothing has happened to the guy. I feel like trolling should be judged more by a human and not an automated system is all.

12 Comments

disregardable3 votes

dude, he can't jg without smite, and the correct thing to do in that situation is go top until he gets items...

TrainerRobo1 votes

Whether he can or cant jungle, my point is I still asked him to leave my lane. He could have went mid while our Yasuo was AFK at the start of the game to get a bit of a start. The point is I asked him to leave my lane and proceeded to feed my laner and drain me of any ability to catch up to garen. There were other options than go top.

disregardable4 votes

It doesn't matter if you didn't want him there.

It was the correct play for him to be there, therefore it was not trolling.

TrainerRobo1 votes

It clearly wasn't, considering he fed the laner and singlehandedly screwed the game over. Like I said, Our yas was afk and could have used help in lane, and i asked him to go mid instead a few times but he refused and fed a laner my kill.

Maybe it more on the griefing end of things instead of trolling, but i'm just fat irritated I'm down LP from someone else screwing me over on my own team.

disregardable2 votes

you died too. does that mean you were trolling?

or is it only trolling for the very first death of the game, and no kills after that matter?

Trundamere1 votes

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It doesn't matter if you didn't want him there.

It was the correct play for him to be there, therefore it was not trolling.

To this I disagree. The correct play was for him to take smite. Failing to take smite should not be an automatic pass to sap your top laner of exp, otherwise people who get auto-filled into jungle may "forget" to take smite on purpose to abuse the fact.

TrainerRobo1 votes

Thats what i'm saying. I'm not saying it should be reportable to forget to take smite, but it should be reportable to screw over another laner after they ask you to not do that

disregardable4 votes

So it's "correct" for him to go get executed by jg camps for 15 minutes and never impact the game at all?

Like dude.

Trundamere1 votes

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So it's "correct" for him to go get executed by jg camps for 15 minutes and never impact the game at all?

Like dude.

Between one lane failing and two lanes failing. I rather for the one lane to fail. Especially since it was his own fault he "forgot" to take smite. Whats to say he didn't "forget" to take smite as a form of role stealing? but that is beside the point. Every game where I had a 1v2 situation in top lane. it has not gone well for the side with the duo. cause the person who is solo WILL out level the both of you. If it is me with the duo I fall behind in levels and can no longer do what I need to do. If it is the other side who is duo then I play very passive. gain a level lead, and 1v2. For me there is never ever a situation where I would want anyone on my team to remain in my lane for the laming phase to the point it causes me an exp deficit.

disregardable3 votes

He only needed to stay in lane for a few levels, to get an item to be able to kill jg camps. Falling behind on EXP is temporary, laner will catch up in a few minutes, esp. if jgler ganks to help.

Like it makes no sense to say "Naw we should effectively remove the jungler from the game" instead of "Ok we have to be behind for the early game".

Edit: Actually, I just thought of an alternative. the supp probably could've done an extended leash for a few camps. the ADC probably can't be dived for the first 3 levels, and the sup doesn't really need a level advantage.

ofc that requires 3 people consenting to do something off meta in solo queue, which is way too much coordination.

Trundamere1 votes

{quoted}

He only needed to stay in lane for a few levels, to get an item to be able to kill jg camps. Falling behind on EXP is temporary, laner will catch up in a few minutes, esp. if jgler ganks to help.

Like it makes no sense to say "Naw we should effectively remove the jungler from the game" instead of "Ok we have to be behind for the early game".

Rather or not it is temporary depends on a few factors. When there is another person in my lane I am only getting 65.2% of the exp that I am supposed to get and that is a lot missing in my book and the longer the person stays in my lane the more and more exp that I fall behind. Yes I am sure it is possible to get that EXP back IF everything else happens to work out nicely. and or the other laner dosen't understand how to abuse a level lead and keep that lead. but even so that is X amount of extra exp i am short of a lead over the laner and thats if I even get to the point to break even again. I do not jungle much as 90%+ of my games are top lane. but I am sure that if i found myself in the situation where I had Jungle with out smite that I can find a way to do it with out executing myself on camps. It would be a slow and hard start but I would not be sapping other lanes of exp and or risking creating a different problem for that person. but that is my own view on the situation and everyone haves a different way of playing.

The bottom line for me is. You should not be forgetting to take smite. or your runes or anything else you need. And if you do forget, you should not expect other people to risk their own lane for that error you made that is their choice if they wish to do so not yours since you made the Error. Lastly again I disagree with it because to me, it opens up the abuse where an auto-filled jungler can "forgot" to take smite on purpose so they can be in top lane and or force someone else to jungle cause they were auto-filled.

Trundamere1 votes

The game in question only happened a day ago. Trolling/Griefing reports most likely take a bit longer to be acted on and or reviewed. further more, as riot seems to take the stance, that they rather risk letting a few trolls slip by then punishing innocent players who were having a bad game.** The game needs to show beyond reasonable doubt to whomever or whatever reviews the game that the person was indeed trolling**. Lastly there is the frequency and severity. one minor trolling session most likely won't trigger a ban, compared to someone who makes it a habit.

In short there are many reasons why this is the case.

Also I personally find it is a much healthier mindset to report and forget. If you are in low ELO then the odds of you encountering this player again is very low due to the sheer amount of players in low ELO. All we can do is report the player, afterwords it is 100% out of our control. I feel that trying to find out rather if people you report are getting punished or not to be a waste of time. because it is hard to find out in most cases, if not impossible when it comes to chat restrictions, and as hinted before, it sometimes takes more then one act of trolling/toxic behavior to invoke a punishment. When I report someone I just put it in to the back of my mind that sometime down the road they will be punished if they keep it up. I don't need to witness the punishment.

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