Just a word about "semantics"

The Ecdysiast·4/4/2019, 5:48:43 AM·4 votes·4,130 views

Semantics is very, very important. If you're trying to make a reasonable argument, you need to know the meaning of both your own words and the opponent's. It's actually pretty stupid that, "oh, that's just semantics," has become a false catch-all for when someone doesn't understand the argument. Hell, the phrase itself, ironically, shows a lack of understanding of the meaning of the word semantics.

And while that doesn't mean there's always one strict definition for a term, what it does mean is that even before a discussion can be had both parties need to know the definition that's going to be used.

Take, for example, the word broken when discussing a champion. It's used several different ways. Some use it to mean unbalanced, or more specifically either underpowered or overpowered (most often, overpowered). But there are also those who stick to using one of those other words instead, to make the argument clearer from the onset, and instead only use broken when they mean that there are parts of the champion that are quite literally not functioning correctly. In that sense, several threads have been made explaining how Mordekaiser is broken because he has over 180 bugs.

Either way, though, it must be made clear what you're actually saying. And just as importantly, what you think you're responding to. If you go to such a thread that's saying Mordekaiser is broken because of his bugs, it's totally irrelevant to bring up his win rate. Because "overpowered" isn't the definition of broken being used in the discussion.

This was just an example, as the discussion that prompted this wasn't about Mordekaiser. But I felt like I needed to type it out, because it's quite frustrating when someone refuses to respond with a relevant argument even after you explain what you mean.

7 Comments

iChem4/4/2019, 6:05:36 AM1 votes

Well said, to bad this is the internet and some people on it still won't learn even when you literally spell it out for them lol. Good luck!

TrulyBland4/4/2019, 7:27:53 AM1 votes

Semantics might be important in general, but that doesn't mean that semantics are always important, and it certainly doesn't mean calling out semantics as semantics is bad. More often than not I find that semantic arguments are still used to attack the underlying ideas (or at least support their disagreement with those ideas), rather than focus purely on the words that were used, which defies the actual idea behind semantics. And when that happens, whether it be inadvertently or intentionally, it needs to be called out. Because the moment the argument about an idea and the argument about the semantics of that idea are convoluted there's no sensible discussion to be had.

I'd love to give some very frequent examples I run into, but all that come to mind are heavily political and would immediately end in a flame fest and, subsequently, with this the thread being locked. I'll try to think of one, though.

Morde Is Kaiser4/7/2019, 6:25:38 AM1 votes

Do discussions about champions really become that convoluted?

Hotarµ4/7/2019, 6:27:57 AM1 votes

Yes.

Yes to everything.

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