Don't blame supports for your defeat.

DressofHeaven·10/29/2016, 6:08:01 PM·32 votes·4,934 views

Okay, so I saw someone make a post about don't blame your junglers for your lose, and I think the same can very much carry over to supports. In most games, no one wants to be the support. They're squishy, can't get kills, thought of as useless, etc. I, as a Sona main (Though I'm also a Ahri main), however, can testify and say that supports don't deserve this much crap or hatred. Even though we may not be able to get kills, you have to remember the name of the role: **SUPPORT. ** Supports help you get kills, usually die a lot, and get assists. You can't expect a support like Soraka or Sona to 100-0 your games, I mean yeah, they're strong, but they're not built for that at all. No ADC would exist if they're support didn't come tag along and help now would they?

Bottom line: Don't throw all the blame on your support if you guys end up losing. If you lose, then it's not one person's fault, rather, it's the lack of communication and everyone's fault. We all have roles to play, so help each other out and don't throw your jealously or salt at your own teammates. Separate reality from the gaming world and toss that salt container away, and I'm sure that your team will appreciate it.

79 Comments

Truly Prideful10/29/2016, 6:17:06 PM22 votes

Why not just stop blaming other people for a loss period? If your team lost, accept that it was a team loss on move on. No reason to blame anyone, just learn from it and play your next game.

GULAG 4 U10/29/2016, 6:28:16 PM10 votes

Support circlejerk: Supports can do nothing wrong!!

No, that's false. In at least 50% of the cases it's not really the support, but there are cases where the support is being an asshat and not actually playing support.

AgeOfTheMage10/29/2016, 6:10:53 PM5 votes

Supports play a key role in the game, As a soraka main supports sometimes have to carry, trust me, i've done it myself. It depends on teh person, in lane i poke alot, and i'm super aggressive allowing my adc to farm, in teamfights i'm a monster CX

Morality Coach10/29/2016, 10:16:15 PM4 votes

I only flame people for being in Bronze and trying to coach people instead of playing. If the support feeds it down bot that's cool with me.

Supports need to get off their high horse though. I've mained ADC and sup a long time in the past, and it is WAY harder having a bad support when you're ADC compared to having a bad ADC when you're support.

Low ELO you just pick Brand or Zyra and destroy everyone, it doesn't matter what your adc does as long as he doesn't feed it. If the support is goofy though the adc has no chance unless you get a big Draven crit or something. If you're on a farming adc and your support is bad that's gg.

Streetlight Man10/29/2016, 11:10:02 PM4 votes

If somebody performs poorly and ends up making the enemy team into a monster, then it is their fault. The blame is on them.

That doesn't mean you get to be an asshole. People have bad games. You will lose games that you did well in because your teammates did not do as well. Get over it and move on to the next game. Because one of these days, it will be your fault your team lost, and you probably don't want to get cursed out by the whole team.

Show some respect and show some kindness

Lyipheoryia10/29/2016, 9:59:02 PM3 votes

0/9/12 Karma

I took a hit for you...and you said I was feeding. So I stop taking hits for you... Then you all decide to go take baron. And then tell everyone to report me in allchat for...being the only one alive after a teamfight?
Thanks. We supports love it when y'all take our sacrifices as if we're trying to die on purpose. Maybe just thank us that you're alive next time :)

JackMcSnipeyz10/30/2016, 4:02:45 AM3 votes

But what if it IS the support's fault? What if he is constantly not warding map, not setting kills/help peeling, and is getting caught and dying most games? Is it still not right to blame him because "support is not a popular role".

No, that excuse is bullshit, supports have just as much weight as every other lane, once you get that mindset outta your head that the small poor support is never to be blamed maybe you'll get better. Support takes skills, and knowledge, just like every other role, dont undersell yourself, you have the power to make or break a game just like everyone else.

xxxDogmanxxx10/30/2016, 3:32:26 PM3 votes

What I don't get is how ADCs in Diamond/Master Tier STILL flame their supports for their getting out CS'd or outplayed by the enemy ADC. Like goddamn, if the enemy Vayne is somehow 4-0 and out-CSing you 50-20 at five minutes into the game when you're Caitlyn, you can't just claim that your support is shit and expect to be believed. Like goddamn, I'm the jungler and even I know you're boosted AF.

AirKingNeo10/29/2016, 8:47:52 PM3 votes

How about we realize sometimes it is someone's fault. There's no reason to have this circlejerk of don't blame the support/jungle, when it can indeed be their fault. People need to realize they suck at finding their own mistakes. If someone blames you for doing something wrong, half the time you actually did otherwise they wouldn't say anything.

Support barely does anything or doesn't ward? It is their fault. ADC doesn't push at all and positions poorly? Bought Essence Reaver on Ezreal? Stattik Shiv on Ashe? No Infinity Edge? It is their fault. Mid laner instalocks yasuo and feeds enemy? Let's opponent roam without punishment? It is their fault. Jungler refuses to gank on a non-farm jungler? Doesn't apply any map pressure at all? Lets your lane be camped an doesn't respond at it? It is their fault. Top laner loses 1v1 twice? Goes in 5v1? It is their fault.

S0kaX10/29/2016, 6:10:07 PM2 votes

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They're squishy, can't get kills,

Squishy? Not all of them. Can't get kills? Who said I can't get 1 or 2 kills once in a while?

DunkinNoobs10/29/2016, 10:12:12 PM2 votes

A whole lot of you supports completely blow and cause your teams to lose.

HazyCloud710/29/2016, 10:13:44 PM2 votes

I don't think supports get even a quarter of the blame that junglers do. A jungler could gank bot, get a double kill for their adc + dragon and their top laner or mid laner will call them useless and complain about how they haven't received a gank yet all while they are pushed up to their enemy's turet 24/7

Worst case maybe the adc might rage at their support, but I almost never see someone default to blaming the support for a loss or for something going wrong.

AdeBug10/29/2016, 10:35:50 PM2 votes

except a bad support can do the most harm to a team not sayin a loss is automatically the supp's fault

Mr Noggenfogger10/30/2016, 12:36:38 AM2 votes

As someone who every once in a while plays adc, I always have the mentality that the support is the one that wins or loses the lane. This is probably mainly because in the lane, your skill is usually a constant, and your support's skill is a variable. So if I lose lane, then I'll think that it's the support's fault for having lower than average skill, while if we win lane, then it's because they had higher than average skill. I've had many really shitty supports, and some absolutely godlike supports(mainly thresh's for some reason). However this is probably because I play Draven, who if he wins lane, can carry extremely hard, or be completely useless if he loses lane, and doesn't ks a ton. I feel like the support doesn't really matter too much for less snowbally adcs, where winning lane as them doesn't matter too much. (Holy shit this post is a rant, but w/e)

TeCoolMage10/30/2016, 8:08:45 AM2 votes

Ooh how about this: don't blame anyone for your defeat.

or does it only apply to supps and jgs?

BigChinLesbian10/30/2016, 8:17:25 AM2 votes

Honestly I find that the carries who blame their supports, and or jungles are the low tier players who lose their lane almost every game. If you are 0/4 in lane before level 6, don't blame your jungle that he did not carry you and babysit you lane. Everyone loses a lane, it's okay. but I feel like what people do not understand is, if you are losing, it's okay to back off under your tower. I mean after your first death, not after your 3rd or 4th. After you have fed them so much, yes they can turret dive you, yes the enemy jungle is going to visit you more often, you are behind, and easier to kill. We have all experienced this. Next time a carry blames you, just mute and move on, they have to take out their loss on you. Report them after game and play with friend if you can, that is my experience as a support player since season 2.

StarTorched10/30/2016, 2:15:59 PM1 votes

I don't know how or why I could be blamed for my adc getting thresh hooked, but apparently that's a thing.

Guess I should eat the hook and then she can yell at me for being unable to dodge it instead.

I don't think some people (even in high elo) realizes that soraka can't negate all damage and can't toss out a heal every single second. But then maybe they are right and I'm just straight trash for not being able to save a Nunu that walked into 4 people and then stood still in jihn ult.

WolfInTheNight10/30/2016, 2:23:34 AM1 votes

FEEL FREE TO BLAME FLAME AND MAKE OTHERS FEEL BAD IF THEY SUCK ,BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE POSSITIVE KDA PLAYER. A LOT OF PLAYERS DESERVE TO FEEL BAD CAUSE YOU CAN'T BE 1/10 OR 5/15 ..I MEAN DELETE THE GAME OR GET DEMOTED BY RIOT .

Loboros10/30/2016, 7:29:33 PM1 votes

Sometimes, it is the supports fault. Also, a lot of people like to play support, its not like 1/100 people are support mains. There is a lot.

Zelorxon11/3/2016, 4:19:50 PM1 votes

I don't blame supports, i'm just saying that

  1. you need to learn how to fucking lane and trade, support is not the "girl's role where you do nothing for 40 mins"
  2. i put down 50 wards in 30 minutes as support, the average plat support gets outwarded by me when i'm jungle using only my trinket (12 wards kinda), think about it.
Kaioko11/3/2016, 4:50:25 PM1 votes

I agree that you can't just blame supports for your loss but I wish support players would also realize just how much of an impact they can have on the game if they truly know how to play. For example, when I play with a Janna support the difference becomes clear extremely quickly on how good the support. Bad supports will just shield and stay back good ones will actually go much more aggressive and perfectly time their tornado to stop and engages.

ReadyxPlayerxOne11/3/2016, 4:56:17 PM1 votes

So when my support lands literally ZERO qs on a morgana all game, doesnt e me and goes 0/8/0 while i go 3/1/2... its not their fault i got 4v1 under towrr and lost lane while they were dead and the jungler and mid couldnt get there fast enough?

Im all for it when you shouldnt blame a position or other player just to blame someone. But sometimes its completely true.