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The Do's and Don'ts of TeamChat. Help Please

JáwzMùlä·2/8/2016, 3:01:19 PM·2 votes·2,569 views

I am fully aware of the Riot terms and conditions when signing up to participate on the Rift. I am also aware of the variety of behaviors that clash on the Rift. What I am not aware of, is how to conduct myself on the Rift. Not saying I'm toxic everygame ... neither am I saying I recently got a chat ban, what I am trying to say is that there is a limit to the amount of things you can take.

What should I say to a teammate that goes 0/3 in lane 5 minutes in ... then types "I'm done with this" then proceeds to go to other lanes and rob them of experience and gold. (RANKED btw)

What should I say to the adc whose death count piles up because he pushes without wards + his support while being told he should not do so. (RANKED btw)

What should I say to the people on the enemy team who say "Report Vayne, Toxic" when Vayne can't defend herself or when I can't see the chat. (RANKED ofc)

What should I say to the jungler who ganks my lane, helps me tower dive, and somehow gets us both killed with no gold in return ... and then says "Pfft, not ganking mid anymore, your trash kid". (Ranked .. mhm)

What should I say to the guy in freaking draft pick ... that has my primary role as his secondary role ... then instalocks Ahri when he is clearly displayed as the jungler during champ selection. (Ranked .. yep)

Point being, these are just a few scenarios that I get when I queue up to climb the ladder, and I'm fully aware that being a flaming moron will get you nothing but criticism BUT there's a limit ... when I'm not moaning ... but simply making an observation. And these are the same people that type "its just a game" ... but somehow ruining this simple "game" .... for other people who actually wanna achieve personal goals ... even if it means just getting out of Silver alone. I need mature community feedback on this post, how does one deal with all of this WITHOUT clicking the mute button ... because when I play ranked, communication has always been vital in everygame.

16 Comments

RiotRiot Whiskies2/8/2016, 5:33:50 PM4 votes

Quite frankly, I don't do either of the two options...

'Bash those who ruin games' is super tempting of course, but if I really feel the need to, I do it apart from the game -- maybe out loud to myself during the game, or talk about it with a friend afterward to vent. IMO, there's no good that can come from lashing back in response to trolls/toxicity/feeders/whatever-gets-your-goat. If it's intentional behavior, they'll probably take pleasure in your reactions. If the 'ruining' of the game is unintentional [cuz they're noob or frustrated or careless or ignorant, etc], then your screaming at them will prolly make it harder for them to bounce back or improve in any way. And who knows how the rest of the players will view your behavior.

As for 'Mute and Report,' I'm in the camp of folks that doesn't like to mute, even if it means putting up with more behavior I'd really rather not. It's trying, of course, but like you I prefer not to miss out on communication in case it's actually something important :P [also, confession: I suffer from a severe case of FOMO]. If I believe something in-game really warrants reporting, I will do it quietly on my own. Never a good idea to ask others to join you in reporting; that really should be up to each individual.

I like to fancy myself as some sort of diffuser when I am mature enough to be [def not always the case]. If I have suggestions for someone who isn't performing well in a match, I try to provide constructive criticism. "Doh, maybe next time make sure there are a couple wards up before pushing that far" can be much better received than "WTF" after your ADC dies. When people say they're done, I try to be encouraging and mention the game's not really over and we should still give it our best. Obvs that doesn't always work, but it's certainly better than flaming at them and making the overall experience more negative.

nerak232/8/2016, 3:40:48 PM1 votes

Say nothing !!

PlatypusSurprise2/8/2016, 3:45:29 PM1 votes

I don't think I'd report the first two...

The first one is likely tilted so maybe just treat them as someone that's roaming and see if you can get a kill with superior numbers before their lane losses to many minions to tower.

Second is just an unskilled player, you just try to keep an eye on the mini map and ping missing and if it looks like they are about to get killed send a danger ping. If that does not stop them from getting killed try to see if you can get the entire team to group and take towers and objectives. If that does not work just chalk it up to someone who is not going to climb the ranks/ drop ranks and move on.

With the third it's harassment to tell people to report someone and more than one report on someone has no effect in a game, it just flags their account to be looked at. So report whoever said report so and so at the end of the game.

Fourth one I might let slide but if they kept down talking one person or the entire team I'd report them. Mostly because if you dive a tower and don't get anything it's your fault as a collective (either you attacked before the one that was meant to tank it tanked it, you did not have the damage to kill the other teams people, etc)

Hmm if they try to use Ahri jungle I don't see an issue with it (I would not try it but I mean Karthus jungle has been working so I just don't even know anymore). If they went mid with the Ahri it's technically unsportsmen like conduct (because it's griefing) so you could report them for that if you feel like it. You can also dodge the queue before the game starts if you see someone do that and save your MMR though you still lose LP.

Zielmann2/8/2016, 5:05:07 PM1 votes

Good questions.

What should I say to a teammate that goes 0/3 in lane 5 minutes in ... then types "I'm done with this" then proceeds to go to other lanes and rob them of experience and gold. (RANKED btw)

Help or encourage them. They lost their lane pretty hard pretty early, and they don't know what to do about it. To an extent, they're doing the right thing by trying to be somewhere that they can get gold and experience without simply continuing to feed that lane opponent. When something is lost this hard, it's often a solid idea to group with that person somewhere else and try to get things moving in a different lane before the other team's fed person can react. Maybe you'll even get the player who is behind a kill or two and pull them right back into the game.

What should I say to the adc whose death count piles up because he pushes without wards + his support while being told he should not do so. (RANKED btw)

if you've already advised against them pushing without vision, and they aren't listening, the best thing to do is probably just rally the team to group with that player. Get vision out there, and just basically follow that player around. I've done this a number of times. It's certainly not guaranteed to work, but the success rate is a lot better than sitting and watching the person die from overextending constantly.

What should I say to the people on the enemy team who say "Report Vayne, Toxic" when Vayne can't defend herself or when I can't see the chat. (RANKED ofc)

Ignore it. If they're being really vocal about it, you can report them after the game if you want. If it annoys you, mute the other team.

What should I say to the jungler who ganks my lane, helps me tower dive, and somehow gets us both killed with no gold in return ... and then says "Pfft, not ganking mid anymore, your trash kid". (Ranked .. mhm)

No point in arguing with him. ignoring him doesn't mean he's right. It means you'd rather focus on playing the game and winning than passing blame around.

What should I say to the guy in freaking draft pick ... that has my primary role as his secondary role ... then instalocks Ahri when he is clearly displayed as the jungler during champ selection. (Ranked .. yep)

This... is a new issue because of the new system, and I hope Riot makes some clear rules around this behavior

nerak232/8/2016, 5:47:26 PM1 votes

[also, confession: I suffer from a severe case of FOMO].

Sorry, I don't know what FOMO means ?

I also don't mute, but after 1 polite attempt to negate negativity I don't attempt to engage the person (other then some pings) and then just try my hardest to have fun and win.

DeathBurst2/8/2016, 6:20:32 PM1 votes

I mute and report (and I scream a lot in meat-space) but I'm always factual and logical in game chat.

I want to win, and maybe I can win a virtual 4v5, but I definitely cannot win if I spend my time counter-flaming such trolls instead of taking objectives. And there is always the possibility they are not actual trolls and just newbie/bad/tilted, and in that case, maybe not all is lost and a bit of friendly chatter will help them get back on track.

Always give other people in the game the benefit of the doubt: if they are intentionally trolling, your anger will please them; and if they are not, your anger will only tilt them even more.

nerak232/8/2016, 7:36:25 PM1 votes

floats-your-boat?

LMAO , Yes of course haha !

GRVet3ran0sS2/8/2016, 3:32:35 PM1 votes

Don't type anything.

nerak232/8/2016, 8:21:31 PM1 votes

Google is your best friend!

Okay so that was worth a giggle :)