The instant feedback system may do more harm than good

Marshbouy·11/30/2018, 2:31:18 AM·1 votes·1,179 views

How many times have you reported a person in game and waited for that satisfying notification, "a person you have recently reported has received punishment", but it never came? I know that it has happened to me many times and each time it damages my perspective on riot's reporting system. I also know I am not alone in this, as I have seen many posts come to the false conclusion that no instant feedback notification means no punishment.

This isn't the case.

Just because you received the notification does not mean they were not banned. The system is a bit of a crapshoot when it comes to sending you a notification. If I remember correctly (and I probably don't, if someone can provide me with a source that would be great!), you only get a notification if your specific report was the one that triggered the person to become punished. That means that a report in a previous game, a report in a later game, or a report from someone else in your game could trigger a punishment, but you would never know.

Regardless of how the system works, one thing I know is true. Notifications that someone you have reported are far too infrequent. Instead of getting a notification every time someone you reported gets punished or no notifications at all, you very rarely get notifications. I get maybe 3-5 instant feedback reports over the course of a season, depending on how frequently I play and report people.

Since there is nothing on the client that explains how the instant feedback notifications operate, I am left with one conclusion: only 3-5 people out of the tens of players I reported over the course of the season were punished for their actions. As I have explained above, this is false, but I only know it to be false after reading various threads about the topic over the time I have spent on the boards.

Not everyone constantly crawls around threads on the boards like I do, so many are stuck thinking that only a small percentage of the players they reported were every punished. This creates distrust in the system and the idea that riot isn't doing enough to punish toxicity.

#Solutions

  1. More frequent notifications. Players who reported others within a given time of the punishment being doled out are sent a notification every time.

  2. Honor/report cards. This could be a card on your profile page that is set to you only that shows your collection of honors and punishment-triggering reports.

  3. A simple explanation of the system somewhere obvious on the client, such as the notification itself or somewhere else.

The only fear some may have is that this could encourage people to report more often or try to bait people into being toxic to pump up their report score, but I find this highly unlikely or a non-issue. As long as the system is working properly, there should be no reason why more reports would be a bad thing and if someone is easily baited into being toxic, they probably deserved the report in the first place.

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2 Comments

DrCyanide11/30/2018, 2:49:26 AM2 votes

A lot of the report/punishment system could use more explanation in the client. It probably should have it's own tab in the client, with mini Q&A section and stats.

As I recall, the report feedback use to be slightly more common, but then some individuals started to use the feedback reports as trophies after they'd troll someone and get them to flame them. Can't say I've ever waited after a game for one though, usually they would come up right as I'm wanting to click on something else in the client and just get in the way.

Kei14311/30/2018, 3:08:59 AM2 votes

If your game is in the reform card of the punished, you will get a notification.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/JEj6EsWh-a-more-transparent-report-system

Keep in mind reform card only shows 1-5 recent games as examples of acceptable behavior.

Monthly Report Cards was a cool community concept. Riot Tantram has since come on to say he is working on something more compelling than monthly report cards.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/jZzbL8JG-semi-annual-reminder-we-havent-gotten-monthly-status-cards-yet?comment=0004000100050000

EDIT: My theory of people seeing the notification less actually tied in with how toxicity is less now compared back in the days. Less toxicity, less chances of them getting punished within the 1-5 recent games, less notifications people get.